Amit Avner is the founder and CEO of Taykey, discussing the SaaS market shift and business models with Nathan Latka.
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“By the way, I think in a year we'll have a problem. Everyone will try to sell subscriptions. And then when a client goes in and said, okay, now I need to buy a 150 different subscriptions to things. It's also kind of crazy. So we'll have a different problem going in and then people would have a new model where it's I don't know what it would be, but there's going to be a new model.”
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