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Kamleitner considers splitting his SaaS products and appointing a co-CEO
“To really do both products or both kids justice there is definitely a way to do that, and that would be like to either split, split up both products from the, from parent company and find a good co-CEO or some other way to split roles”
Opinion
Kamleitner says Walls.io and Swat.io are worth over $3M each
“Well, well, I see the value of each product way higher, quite honestly.”
Insight
Kamleitner: Software companies cannot rely exclusively on paid ads for sustainable growth
“Paid paid acquisition through adverts also, also at some point hits the ceiling. And we are seeing, like you said, the space is competitive. So, so it will not be it will not work to grow only from cost per click forever.”
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Walls.io generates roughly €100,000 in monthly recurring revenue
“That's not too, too far off. Yes.”
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Kamleitner: Walls.io grew revenue 60% to 70% year-over-year
“Well, year over year, the last year we grew about like 60, 70%.”
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Amazon uses Walls.io internally across its US offices
“One of our latest latest showcase or logo customers is like Amazon US. They are using the product internally in their offices to raise awareness for social media content.”
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Kamleitner: Both bootstrapped SaaS products are profitable and growing well
“As long as we are growing and obviously we are profitable as being bootstrapped, there is no other way to that. I don't see any one of those products failing. Failure for me would be like stagnation and no growth at all. But like I said before, we, with both p…”
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Swat.io generates approximately $1.5M in annual recurring revenue
“Well, that's about the ballpark.”
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Kamleitner: Walls.io customer acquisition cost is approximately €100
“I had, I have a browser window open. I can now tell you that the CAC is, is around 100 euro. So that's about half our average, average per month.”
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Kamleitner: Walls.io is transitioning to permanent usage subscription models
“Like I said, we are moving away from the event business and towards this more permanent usage models where we have a much better CAC to LTV ratio.”
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Kamleitner: Walls.io and Swat.io are equal in revenue size
“Well, they're basically equal size, but I would suggest to focus on Wallsio since it's a much more internationally targeted product and basically it's our most exciting baby right now.”
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Walls.io charges €200 monthly for Pro and €500 for Premium
“Basically we offer two, two pricing plans. That's a pro plan. That's about 200 euros per, per month, and the premium package is 500 euros per month.”
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Kamleitner: Walls.io operates with 10 to 11 dedicated team members
“Our whole company is 22, and we are about split half-half, so that's about 10, 11 people right now, so that's it, yeah.”
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Walls.io has roughly 700 to 800 active paying customers
“We are currently at around seven, well, seven or 800 paid walls, as we used to say.”
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Kamleitner: Walls.io growth driven by new US customers
“We started in Austria and the German speaking countries, but during the last one year, we see tremendous growth coming in from the States actually. So, so I would say it's mostly new customers.”
Disclosure
Kamleitner: Walls.io operates fully on-site from its Vienna office
“No, we are pretty old school in that regard and have our whole team based in our Vienna office.”
