Jason Cohen

Founder & Chief Innovation Officer, WP Engine · 1 appearance on the record.

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Jason Cohen is the founder and Chief Innovation Officer at WP Engine. He also founded SmartBear Software and writes the startup blog A Smart Bear.

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The record, in short

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
WP Engine Grew From $1M to $5M ARR in One Year
“But then in 2012, our growth rate shot up again. We went from one million to five million in one year, and as you can see, it never ended.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 1:12 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale

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Everything Jason Cohen said on Top Founders that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Cohen: AI Summaries Discard Crucial Context From Leadership Feedback
“I think what's good about AI and those things is it does summarize okay, but it leaves out detail that might be the whole story. Like the details where you really understand. If you just say stuff like, you need to listen more, you're like, okay, I get it. But…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 21:31 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Experimentation alone cannot scale a startup after product-market fit
“And so the things that you do dramatically change, and so just saying things like, we'll keep experimenting is not how you scale something that's already working.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 2:08 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Scaling post-PMF forces a difficult emotional shift in founder identity
“The stuff, the activity, That got you here won't get you there because there's these other types of behavior which are now correct, and it's a lot of stuff, and I guess the point I really want to make is that this changes who you are and what you are even prou…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 3:55 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Diluting headcount across multiple initiatives destroys a scaling company's competitive advantage
“What I'm going to argue is that this is not what you should do, that you should instead still have only a couple of things that you do, and focus everybody, all the scale that you have, on just a few things instead of this. And the reason is that if you cut up…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 5:46 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Distributed Teams and Strategic Alignment Degrade Every 100 Days
“I think doing it more often than this is not necessary. It's a lot of overhead. But about every hundred days, this kind of stuff falls out of people's heads. Just like if you're a distributed team, about every hundred days, all the social fabric starts getting…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 9:45 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Fast-scaling companies must hire executives who are better than the founders
“Everyone you hire has to be better than you, or else the company is not progressing, and certainly, again, if you're scaling fast, you're gonna outscale how anyone can grow. You have to get that talent. That means that person has to be better than you.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 14:08 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Great executive interviews leave founders with actionable notes to implement immediately
“First of all, when you get off the call with them, you should be giddy with, like, oh my god, they said they would do this, and they've done that. Like, even if we don't hire them, like, we've got to do some of these things, you guys. Like, I took notes like c…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 14:42 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Executives differ from managers by being responsible for upleveling peer leaders
“Another signal of an executive, as opposed to, say, a manager, where you don't expect the manager to uplevel the person next to them. An executive, that's exactly part of the job description. It's about us, the company, not just the department that you're resp…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 15:47 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Ask references to describe scenarios where candidates excel as superstars
“What you do is you call and say, what is the perfect scenario where this person is an absolute superstar? That they're so happy and so effective and they just get 10 times more done than you would expect. What does that, if you were to construct that for them,…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 16:15 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Insight
Cohen: Founders should not fear hiring CEOs because founders always retain credit
“Here's what he says. Here's the thing. You're the founder. You'll always get the credit. That's what I needed to hear. Of course I get to keep the ego part. I get to keep it. Wait a minute. I get to keep that part? Good. Like, what am I doing hiring a VP of sa…”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 26:35 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Assertion Partly supported
WP Engine Reached $100M ARR in Under Seven Years
“We got to a hundred million in something like a little less than seven years.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 1:19 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Assertion Not checkable as stated
WP Engine Hosts Millions of Websites and Tens of Billions Daily Events
“We host millions of websites and have tens of billions of events per day flying around, so we have infrastructure scale problems, too, or challenges, I should say, but it's usually people.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 12:17 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Disclosure
Cohen: Hiring Heather Brunner as WP Engine CEO was second-best decision ever
“Anyway, my second best decision, though, was hiring Heather Bruner to be our CEO. She's been here for over 11 years now, and, ah, fantastic.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 18:39 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
WP Engine Reached $1M ARR in First 18 Months
“So we got to one million ARR in our first 18 months, which is pretty good.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 1:03 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale
Assertion Supported
WP Engine Grew From $1M to $5M ARR in One Year
“But then in 2012, our growth rate shot up again. We went from one million to five million in one year, and as you can see, it never ended.”
Jason Cohen Apr 23, 2024 ▶ 1:12 We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale

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Appearances (1)

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We just hit $400m in revenues. Here are 9 org chart, people moves I had to make to scale Apr 23, 2024 22m
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