Q So is that the one you're most bullish on?
A Yeah, I mean, Overcast, you know, Marco's, Marco's an incredible, uh, talent as far as, you know, he understood it. He, he designed it the right way. I mean, Marco understood what a lot of people don't understand in podcasting. I mean, if you ever hear anyone say that there's a discoverability issue in podcasting, they don't understand podcasting. Uh, because there isn't a discoverability issue in podcasting. What there is, is an ease of consumption issue. And, and what Marco did with his app, Overcast, he made it easy for people to consume the content they know they want to consume. The end users, when you talk to the everyday end users, they do not feel that there is an issue of discoverability. They learn about podcasting through word of mouth marketing, then go in and search for a podcast. The only people that think there's a discovery ability issue in podcasting are the podcasters whose podcasts aren't being discovered.
AI assessment note: “Yeah, I mean, Overcast, you know, Marco's, Marco's an incredible, uh, talent”