Jan 19, 2016 · 16m · top-founders

Stress Free Way to Launch Startup In Red Tape Industries with Jarie Bolander of Lab Sensor Solutions

Jari Bolander · 8m spoken Nathan Latka · 5m spoken
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Host Nathan Latka interviews Jari Bolander, co-founder and COO of Lab Sensor Solutions, discussing how his IoT healthcare startup delivers cold-chain monitoring, maintains 85% gross margins through a sensor-as-a-service model, and navigates enterprise sales in regulated medical markets.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Nathan holds 42.1% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Nathan as informed peer 4.5 Guest teaching 3.3 Guest disagreement 0.8 Nathan pushing back 1.8
05100:0010:001:29–4:16 · Nathan as informed peer 4/10 Founding Lab Sensor Solutions, Co-Founders, and Equity Split Nathan inquires about the founding team structure and expresses genuine surprise at an equal five-way founder equity split without a typical cliff. Jari calmly explains the logic of equal partnership and four-year vesting among experienced repeat founders.4:16–9:57 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 Hardware-as-a-Service Economics and Seed Funding Jari breaks down the unit economics of Lab Sensor Solutions, explaining hardware-as-a-service pricing at $25 per month per sensor and high gross margins above 85%. Nathan learns about the surprisingly low-tech reality of medical specimen transit using coolers and fax machines.9:58–12:26 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Mid-Episode Announcements and Growth Geeks Sponsorship Following an ad break, Nathan quickly synthesizes the business metrics, calculating their baseline recurring revenue at roughly three thousand dollars per month across 125 deployed sensors. Jari explains how Affordable Care Act regulations drive adoption by penalizing lab test errors.12:26–14:57 · Nathan as informed peer 3/10 Famous Five Rapid-Fire Questions and Founder Reflections Nathan conducts the standard Famous Five rapid-fire segment covering favorite business books, tools, and founder advice. Jari recommends The Pumpkin Plan and shares reflections on having the confidence to start early.1:29–4:16 · Guest teaching 3/10 Founding Lab Sensor Solutions, Co-Founders, and Equity Split Nathan inquires about the founding team structure and expresses genuine surprise at an equal five-way founder equity split without a typical cliff. Jari calmly explains the logic of equal partnership and four-year vesting among experienced repeat founders.4:16–9:57 · Guest teaching 5/10 Hardware-as-a-Service Economics and Seed Funding Jari breaks down the unit economics of Lab Sensor Solutions, explaining hardware-as-a-service pricing at $25 per month per sensor and high gross margins above 85%. Nathan learns about the surprisingly low-tech reality of medical specimen transit using coolers and fax machines.9:58–12:26 · Guest teaching 3/10 Mid-Episode Announcements and Growth Geeks Sponsorship Following an ad break, Nathan quickly synthesizes the business metrics, calculating their baseline recurring revenue at roughly three thousand dollars per month across 125 deployed sensors. Jari explains how Affordable Care Act regulations drive adoption by penalizing lab test errors.12:26–14:57 · Guest teaching 2/10 Famous Five Rapid-Fire Questions and Founder Reflections Nathan conducts the standard Famous Five rapid-fire segment covering favorite business books, tools, and founder advice. Jari recommends The Pumpkin Plan and shares reflections on having the confidence to start early.1:29–4:16 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Founding Lab Sensor Solutions, Co-Founders, and Equity Split Nathan inquires about the founding team structure and expresses genuine surprise at an equal five-way founder equity split without a typical cliff. Jari calmly explains the logic of equal partnership and four-year vesting among experienced repeat founders.4:16–9:57 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Hardware-as-a-Service Economics and Seed Funding Jari breaks down the unit economics of Lab Sensor Solutions, explaining hardware-as-a-service pricing at $25 per month per sensor and high gross margins above 85%. Nathan learns about the surprisingly low-tech reality of medical specimen transit using coolers and fax machines.9:58–12:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Mid-Episode Announcements and Growth Geeks Sponsorship Following an ad break, Nathan quickly synthesizes the business metrics, calculating their baseline recurring revenue at roughly three thousand dollars per month across 125 deployed sensors. Jari explains how Affordable Care Act regulations drive adoption by penalizing lab test errors.12:26–14:57 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Famous Five Rapid-Fire Questions and Founder Reflections Nathan conducts the standard Famous Five rapid-fire segment covering favorite business books, tools, and founder advice. Jari recommends The Pumpkin Plan and shares reflections on having the confidence to start early.1:29–4:16 · Nathan pushing back 3/10 Founding Lab Sensor Solutions, Co-Founders, and Equity Split Nathan inquires about the founding team structure and expresses genuine surprise at an equal five-way founder equity split without a typical cliff. Jari calmly explains the logic of equal partnership and four-year vesting among experienced repeat founders.4:16–9:57 · Nathan pushing back 2/10 Hardware-as-a-Service Economics and Seed Funding Jari breaks down the unit economics of Lab Sensor Solutions, explaining hardware-as-a-service pricing at $25 per month per sensor and high gross margins above 85%. Nathan learns about the surprisingly low-tech reality of medical specimen transit using coolers and fax machines.9:58–12:26 · Nathan pushing back 1/10 Mid-Episode Announcements and Growth Geeks Sponsorship Following an ad break, Nathan quickly synthesizes the business metrics, calculating their baseline recurring revenue at roughly three thousand dollars per month across 125 deployed sensors. Jari explains how Affordable Care Act regulations drive adoption by penalizing lab test errors.12:26–14:57 · Nathan pushing back 1/10 Famous Five Rapid-Fire Questions and Founder Reflections Nathan conducts the standard Famous Five rapid-fire segment covering favorite business books, tools, and founder advice. Jari recommends The Pumpkin Plan and shares reflections on having the confidence to start early.

speaking balance: gold is Nathan, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Nathan 54.9% · guest 45.1%0:00 · Nathan 54.9% · guest 45.1%3:00 · Nathan 26.7% · guest 73.3%3:00 · Nathan 26.7% · guest 73.3%6:00 · Nathan 18.4% · guest 81.6%6:00 · Nathan 18.4% · guest 81.6%9:00 · Nathan 55% · guest 45%9:00 · Nathan 55% · guest 45%12:00 · Nathan 46% · guest 54%12:00 · Nathan 46% · guest 54%15:00 · Nathan 100% · guest 0%15:00 · Nathan 100% · guest 0%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 3:14 Defending equal co-founder equity allocation

Jari firmly explains why treating all five co-founders as equal partners was the only fair route despite Nathan noting how rarely clean equal splits occur.

Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 3:08 Challenging equal five-way equity distribution

Nathan expresses skepticism about a five-person founding team splitting equity down the middle with no initial cliff.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 6:34 Exposing primitive healthcare sample transport

Jari educates Nathan on clinical logistics reality, explaining that precious blood samples are routinely transported in standard ice coolers inside passenger cars.

Nathan holds their own ▶ 11:00 Calculating revenue run-rate on the fly

Nathan demonstrates mastery of SaaS/HaaS business math by instantly converting sensor counts and monthly fees into current recurring revenue.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicNathan as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementNathan pushing backWhy
Founding Lab Sensor Solutions, Co-Founders, and Equity Split 4313 Nathan inquires about the founding team structure and expresses genuine surprise at an equal five-way founder equity split without a typical cliff. Jari calmly explains the logic of equal partnership and four-year vesting among experienced repeat founders.
Hardware-as-a-Service Economics and Seed Funding 5512 Jari breaks down the unit economics of Lab Sensor Solutions, explaining hardware-as-a-service pricing at $25 per month per sensor and high gross margins above 85%. Nathan learns about the surprisingly low-tech reality of medical specimen transit using coolers and fax machines.
Mid-Episode Announcements and Growth Geeks Sponsorship 6311 Following an ad break, Nathan quickly synthesizes the business metrics, calculating their baseline recurring revenue at roughly three thousand dollars per month across 125 deployed sensors. Jari explains how Affordable Care Act regulations drive adoption by penalizing lab test errors.
Famous Five Rapid-Fire Questions and Founder Reflections 3201 Nathan conducts the standard Famous Five rapid-fire segment covering favorite business books, tools, and founder advice. Jari recommends The Pumpkin Plan and shares reflections on having the confidence to start early.

Statements from this episode (8)

Disclosure
Lab Sensor Solutions split equity equally among its five co-founders
“Well, for us, we split it all equally.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 3:08
Disclosure
Lab Sensor Solutions founders vest equity over four years without a cliff
“For founders, no, there wasn't. For normal, you know, normal options, there is a cliff.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 4:10
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lab Sensor Solutions operates with gross margins above 85 percent
“Above 85%.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 4:58
Disclosure
Lab Sensor Solutions raised $420,000 for its seed round
“We raised 420 K. Okay.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 5:56
Disclosure
Lab Sensor Solutions charges $25 per month per sensor
“Each sensor that we place to monitor is, 25 dollars per month per sensor. and that includes the full platform.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 7:05
Disclosure
Lab Sensor Solutions has 3 paying customers and 7 lab trials
“We've got, you know, three labs that are our customers right now. we've got seven more, what are called in trials.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 7:51
Disclosure
Lab Sensor Solutions has 125 sensors deployed across 3 customers
“So, yeah, so right now those three customers have a 125 sensors deployed.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 9:17
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bolander expects seven customer trials to convert into 1,700 deployed sensors
“So, the, those trials that I talked with you about, those are roughly gonna be, when they convert, about 1700 sensors, roughly, you know, give or take.”
Jari Bolander Jan 19, 2016 ▶ 9:32
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