Sep 10, 2016 · 24m · top-founders
EP 413: SaaS, $242k MRR, $13 Million Raised to Re-Invent Business Email with Mathilde Collin of FrontApp
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Host Nathan Latka interviews Mathilde Collin, CEO and co-founder of Front, analyzing the company's growth to $242,000 in monthly recurring revenue and $13 million in total venture funding. Collin breaks down Front's organic customer acquisition, disciplined cash management, equal founder equity philosophy, and long-term vision to modernize workplace email while targeting an IPO.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Nathan holds 50.6% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Nathan as informed peer 4.6 Guest teaching 2.4 Guest disagreement 1.9 Nathan pushing back 2.9
speaking balance: gold is Nathan, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 9:06 Mathilde rejects VC board pressure framing
Mathilde flatly counters Nathan's premise that VC investors will dictate her spending, insisting she retains full decision-making control over company capital.
Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 16:51 Nathan calls out Mathilde for dodging acquisition questionNathan directly refuses Mathilde's feel-good answer about making people happy, accusing her of dancing hardcore around the reality of investor expectations.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 17:25 Mathilde explains why email startups fail post-acquisitionMathilde educates Nathan on why an IPO is Front's only viable route, pointing out that 100 percent of email startups acquired by giants like Microsoft or Salesforce end up shuttered.
Nathan holds their own ▶ 15:26 Nathan models customer lifetime value in real timeNathan showcases SaaS financial acumen by computing Front's gross churn into a 33-month lifetime value and calculating average customer worth at $6,600.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Nathan as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Nathan pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Weekly Cash Giveaway Winner Announcement | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | Nathan begins with his podcast sponsor pitch and intro before bringing on Mathilde. The opening conversation is light, exploring the founding story and initial revenue numbers without friction. | |
| Customer Base and Monthly Recurring Revenue | 6 | 2 | 1 | 2 | Nathan quickly does the mental math on paying customers multiplied by ARPU to calculate MRR at $242k. He inquires about their funding rationale, and Mathilde explains why building an email client protocol required early capital. | |
| Team Expansion, Moving to SF, and Responsible Cash Management | 6 | 4 | 4 | 6 | Nathan challenges Mathilde's conservative capital management, pointing out that board members from Social Capital will pressure her to spend the $10M on growth. Mathilde firmly asserts her autonomy as CEO, stating that investors can advise, but she ultimately makes the decisions. | |
| Co-Founder Dynamics and Equal Equity Split | 7 | 4 | 2 | 3 | Nathan drills into unit economics including churn, CAC, and LTV calculations. Mathilde reframes the upsell mechanic, explaining that growth comes from cross-team land-and-expand rather than moving up pricing tiers. | |
| Long-Term Mission and Why Front Aims for an IPO over Acquisition | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | Nathan aggressively pushes back when Mathilde gives a generic PR answer about making people happy at work instead of naming potential acquirers. Mathilde defends her stance by presenting an IPO rationale and noting that almost all acquired email startups get shut down. | |
| Churn Insights, Growth Targets, and Future Milestones | 5 | 2 | 1 | 2 | Mathilde outlines reasons for churn and future revenue milestones, targeting $300k MRR by year-end and $10M ARR in 2017. Nathan smoothly transitions into a sponsor segment. | |
| The Famous Five Questions with Mathilde Collin | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | Nathan runs through his Famous Five rapid-fire questions, playfully ribbing Mathilde when she names her own product as her favorite tool before wrapping up cleanly. | |
| Company Metric Recap and Guest Farewell | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Nathan provides a rapid monologue recap of FrontApp's key metrics and delivers the episode outro. |
Statements from this episode (24)
Collin: Front reached $2M in revenue after two years
“And so we make two millions in revenues after two years.”
Collin: Cisco uses Front across teams of hundreds of people
“We have so we have companies of two users, and then we have companies as big as Cisco using the product and so teams of hundreds of people.”
Collin: Front spent only one-third of seed round before Series A
“And we had spent a third of what we had raised during our seed. So we had plenty of money left.”
Collin: Front can become default business email client within 10 years
“Our mission is to reinvent email for companies and to be the default business email client. It's very ambitious, and I think it would take a hundred years without funding to achieve that, and hopefully just 10 years with funding to achieve that.”
Collin: Front moved its entire team from France to San Francisco
“We moved everyone from France to San Francisco.”
Collin: Front burns roughly $100K-plus in cash per month
“I'd have to check probably a hundred something.”
Collin: Front's VC board members can advise, but I make final decisions
“I mean, the thing is, they can advise whatever they want, but at the end of the day, I'll make the decisions, right?”
Collin: Front must always maintain several years of cash runway
“I think now it's my responsibility to always have a few years of runway. Otherwise I would not sleep well.”
Mathilde Collin: Co-founders should split equity equally to prevent frustration
“And so I would recommend that to every founder, even the one that maybe will join a few months after. If you look at the beginning of the company, it seems like it makes a difference. Maybe someone is investing a little bit more money, more time is joining a b…”
Collin: Front has no marketing team and relies entirely on organic content
“So right now to be perfectly honest, we have no marketing team. So growth has been organic. So it's, I don't know if you've noticed, but I write personally a lot of content and that's how we acquire users.”
Collin: Front has 3% monthly gross customer churn
“So we know that our user churn is three percent monthly.”
Collin: Front has always maintained net negative revenue churn
“But then our revenue churn has always been negative. Because we have a model where we have to lend and expand. Yeah, exactly. In new teams. And so that's always higher than the downsells.”
Collin: MailChimp expanded from one team to ten on Front
“So as an example, MailChimp started to use the product when we launched two years ago with our partnerships team that had a partnerships at address with lots of incoming inquiries. And today they have 10 different teams using the product, and that's mainly how…”
Collin: 80% of Front users are on monthly plans
“Monthly is an option, and we have 80% of our users on a monthly plan.”
Collin: Front will aim for an IPO over an acquisition
“So first to make money for the investors, I think going public is a better bet. So we'll try to do that.”
Collin: 100% of acquired email startups get shut down
“But also a hundred percent of those companies who have been acquired shut down.”