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Mar 5, 2019 · 19m · top-founders

Capitalistbook.com: My SaaS book LIVE today ($6.5m Error)

Nathan Latka · 16m spoken
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Nathan Latka celebrates the launch day of his book, 'How to Be a Capitalist Without Any Capital', while sharing exclusive audiobook excerpts on SaaS revenue expansion, cohort retention analysis, and business acquisition strategies.

How this conversation actually went

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Nathan as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 0.0 Guest disagreement 0.0 Nathan pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:000:01–5:40 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Book Launch Day and Media Tour Announcement This segment is a solo promotional announcement and audiobook excerpt narrated entirely by Nathan Latka with no guest interaction.5:42–8:24 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Cohort Churn Analysis and Strategic Upselling Nathan Latka delivers a solo audiobook narration discussing cohort churn analysis and usage-based upselling strategies.8:24–14:25 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Chapter 13: Tactics for Selling a Business This is an audiobook reading on business acquisition tactics and negotiating leverage; the single brief vocal sample does not constitute an interview exchange.14:28–17:13 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Identifying Acquirers via the Hamburger Strategy Nathan narrates the 'hamburger strategy' for finding potential acquirers across complementary products and distribution channels without guest participation.17:13–18:34 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Lessons from a Rejected $6.5 Million Buyout Offer Nathan reflects on turning down a multi-million dollar buyout offer early in his career and concludes the promotional episode monologue.0:01–5:40 · Guest teaching 0/10 Book Launch Day and Media Tour Announcement This segment is a solo promotional announcement and audiobook excerpt narrated entirely by Nathan Latka with no guest interaction.5:42–8:24 · Guest teaching 0/10 Cohort Churn Analysis and Strategic Upselling Nathan Latka delivers a solo audiobook narration discussing cohort churn analysis and usage-based upselling strategies.8:24–14:25 · Guest teaching 0/10 Chapter 13: Tactics for Selling a Business This is an audiobook reading on business acquisition tactics and negotiating leverage; the single brief vocal sample does not constitute an interview exchange.14:28–17:13 · Guest teaching 0/10 Identifying Acquirers via the Hamburger Strategy Nathan narrates the 'hamburger strategy' for finding potential acquirers across complementary products and distribution channels without guest participation.17:13–18:34 · Guest teaching 0/10 Lessons from a Rejected $6.5 Million Buyout Offer Nathan reflects on turning down a multi-million dollar buyout offer early in his career and concludes the promotional episode monologue.0:01–5:40 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Book Launch Day and Media Tour Announcement This segment is a solo promotional announcement and audiobook excerpt narrated entirely by Nathan Latka with no guest interaction.5:42–8:24 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Cohort Churn Analysis and Strategic Upselling Nathan Latka delivers a solo audiobook narration discussing cohort churn analysis and usage-based upselling strategies.8:24–14:25 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Chapter 13: Tactics for Selling a Business This is an audiobook reading on business acquisition tactics and negotiating leverage; the single brief vocal sample does not constitute an interview exchange.14:28–17:13 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Identifying Acquirers via the Hamburger Strategy Nathan narrates the 'hamburger strategy' for finding potential acquirers across complementary products and distribution channels without guest participation.17:13–18:34 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Lessons from a Rejected $6.5 Million Buyout Offer Nathan reflects on turning down a multi-million dollar buyout offer early in his career and concludes the promotional episode monologue.0:01–5:40 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Book Launch Day and Media Tour Announcement This segment is a solo promotional announcement and audiobook excerpt narrated entirely by Nathan Latka with no guest interaction.5:42–8:24 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Cohort Churn Analysis and Strategic Upselling Nathan Latka delivers a solo audiobook narration discussing cohort churn analysis and usage-based upselling strategies.8:24–14:25 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Chapter 13: Tactics for Selling a Business This is an audiobook reading on business acquisition tactics and negotiating leverage; the single brief vocal sample does not constitute an interview exchange.14:28–17:13 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Identifying Acquirers via the Hamburger Strategy Nathan narrates the 'hamburger strategy' for finding potential acquirers across complementary products and distribution channels without guest participation.17:13–18:34 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Lessons from a Rejected $6.5 Million Buyout Offer Nathan reflects on turning down a multi-million dollar buyout offer early in his career and concludes the promotional episode monologue.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 9:58 Interjected Single Word

In an episode entirely comprised of a solo audiobook narration, the only guest audio is an isolated single-word interjection.

 Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 10:00 Refuting Outdated M&A Beliefs

Nathan argues against the traditional industry adage that companies must only be bought rather than proactively sold.

 Biggest teaching moment ▶ 6:05 Cohort Churn Analysis Lesson

Nathan shares the analytical method of tracking retained cohorts to discover which product features drive customer stickiness.

 Nathan holds their own ▶ 11:20 Negotiating Leverage via Fiduciary Framing

Nathan illustrates how framing price demands around fiduciary duty to investors forces prospective acquirers to raise their bids.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicNathan as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementNathan pushing backWhy
Book Launch Day and Media Tour Announcement 0000 This segment is a solo promotional announcement and audiobook excerpt narrated entirely by Nathan Latka with no guest interaction.
Cohort Churn Analysis and Strategic Upselling 0000 Nathan Latka delivers a solo audiobook narration discussing cohort churn analysis and usage-based upselling strategies.
Chapter 13: Tactics for Selling a Business 0000 This is an audiobook reading on business acquisition tactics and negotiating leverage; the single brief vocal sample does not constitute an interview exchange.
Identifying Acquirers via the Hamburger Strategy 0000 Nathan narrates the 'hamburger strategy' for finding potential acquirers across complementary products and distribution channels without guest participation.
Lessons from a Rejected $6.5 Million Buyout Offer 0000 Nathan reflects on turning down a multi-million dollar buyout offer early in his career and concludes the promotional episode monologue.

Statements from this episode (10)

Disclosure
Latka caps Gitlatka at 50 customers to force churn via price hikes
“Today, I count my customer base at around 50. Every few months, I'll send out an email letting them know my monthly price is going up. About one to three customers churn as a result of the increase, so those spots open up to the waiting list.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 3:46
Assertion Partly supported
Latka: Infusionsoft cut monthly churn from 8% to 2% with onboarding fee
“When Clayt added a 2500 dollar service fee at the beginning of the sales process, his customers became more invested. He also started attracting more serious customers while weeding out those who never intended to pay for the service. He could also afford to p…”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 5:12
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Latka: Heyo's February 2014 cohort saw 84.7% churn after two years
“Out of the 443 customers who signed up in February, 2014, 84.7% had churned by February, 2016, two years later.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 6:08
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Latka: Tying Heyo's pricing to captured leads immediately spiked revenue
“In Halo's case, the customers who kept paying the longest were those who captured the most leads through our Facebook contests. So we started to tie pricing to the number of leads collected and immediately saw a revenue spike.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 6:36
Disclosure
Latka: The Top Inbox used a $5/month paywall after 50 uses
“We did that with Heyo, and it's also how I monetized the top inbox. You hit a five dollar per month paywall after using it 50 times.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 7:23
Insight
Latka: Founders should proactively initiate buyout talks rather than waiting to be courted
“Forget the tired thinking that you can only get a great offer for your business if buyers woo you into selling. You need to make it known that you want to sell with the reason people will believe to get conversations going.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 10:01
Insight
Latka: Feigning personal desperation gets competitors to start acquisition talks
“Email a few of your competitors and say, I really need to sell the business to take care of some personal stuff. Want to chat? Leave it at that. This sounds desperate, but that's the point. Your desperate vibes will get prospective buyers to engage in conversa…”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 10:19
Insight
Latka: Issuing a letter of intent significantly hooks prospective buyers emotionally
“When I'm looking at buying companies, I know that once I issue an LOI, I'm significantly more invested. I've learned more about the CEO, the company financials, and the systems the team uses. I can still walk away, but it hurts more to walk away at that point.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 11:43
Insight
Latka: Pitch your high-volume distribution partners to acquire your company
“If you're paying someone a cut and they're driving a lot of volume, you might offer to sell them your whole company.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 16:51
Opinion
Latka: Rejecting iContact's $6.5M buyout for Heyo was a massive mistake
“Now, passing on this was one of the biggest mistakes of my life.”
Nathan Latka Mar 5, 2019 ▶ 18:27
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