May 28, 2024 · 23m · top-founders

Coro Announces $100m Live on the Show, Their Partnership Playbook

Dror Liwer · 19m spoken Nathan Latka · 28s spoken
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At SaaSOpen, Coro co-founder Dror Liwer announces the company's $100 million Series D funding and reveals the channel-first playbook that scaled Coro to 300 percent annual growth across the mid-market cybersecurity landscape.

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Nathan as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 0.0 Guest disagreement 0.3 Nathan pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:0020:000:38–3:58 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Coro's $100M Series D Announcement and Market Vision Solo keynote presentation by Dror Liwer announcing Coro's $100M Series D round and outlining the cybersecurity market gap in the mid-market. The host does not participate in this segment.4:00–8:25 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Shifting from Direct Cold Calling to Channel Distribution Dror details Coro's transition from an outbound cold-calling direct model to an aggressive channel program and modularizing their product architecture. The host is not active.8:26–11:56 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 The Necessity of Direct Sales and Three Partner Archetypes Dror explains why direct sales remains essential to validate new modules before pushing them to channel partners and outlines three partner categories. The host does not participate.11:57–14:46 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Channel Economics and the Core Criteria for Partnership Success Dror presents the financial dynamics of onboarding channel partners, explaining the initial cash flow dip and the essential criteria of audience, incentive, and reason. The host is not present.14:48–18:52 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 ComplyAuto Case Study: Scaling via Regulatory Compliance Mandates Dror shares the ComplyAuto case study where FTC Safeguard Rule mandates enabled rapid distribution across 4,500 car dealerships. Monologue presentation without host involvement.18:53–23:42 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Partner Metrics, Commission Architecture, and Audience Q&A Dror answers audience questions regarding relinquishing control, channel analytics resources, and criticizes Microsoft's partner renewal commission cuts. The host is not active.0:38–3:58 · Guest teaching 0/10 Coro's $100M Series D Announcement and Market Vision Solo keynote presentation by Dror Liwer announcing Coro's $100M Series D round and outlining the cybersecurity market gap in the mid-market. The host does not participate in this segment.4:00–8:25 · Guest teaching 0/10 Shifting from Direct Cold Calling to Channel Distribution Dror details Coro's transition from an outbound cold-calling direct model to an aggressive channel program and modularizing their product architecture. The host is not active.8:26–11:56 · Guest teaching 0/10 The Necessity of Direct Sales and Three Partner Archetypes Dror explains why direct sales remains essential to validate new modules before pushing them to channel partners and outlines three partner categories. The host does not participate.11:57–14:46 · Guest teaching 0/10 Channel Economics and the Core Criteria for Partnership Success Dror presents the financial dynamics of onboarding channel partners, explaining the initial cash flow dip and the essential criteria of audience, incentive, and reason. The host is not present.14:48–18:52 · Guest teaching 0/10 ComplyAuto Case Study: Scaling via Regulatory Compliance Mandates Dror shares the ComplyAuto case study where FTC Safeguard Rule mandates enabled rapid distribution across 4,500 car dealerships. Monologue presentation without host involvement.18:53–23:42 · Guest teaching 0/10 Partner Metrics, Commission Architecture, and Audience Q&A Dror answers audience questions regarding relinquishing control, channel analytics resources, and criticizes Microsoft's partner renewal commission cuts. The host is not active.0:38–3:58 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Coro's $100M Series D Announcement and Market Vision Solo keynote presentation by Dror Liwer announcing Coro's $100M Series D round and outlining the cybersecurity market gap in the mid-market. The host does not participate in this segment.4:00–8:25 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Shifting from Direct Cold Calling to Channel Distribution Dror details Coro's transition from an outbound cold-calling direct model to an aggressive channel program and modularizing their product architecture. The host is not active.8:26–11:56 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Necessity of Direct Sales and Three Partner Archetypes Dror explains why direct sales remains essential to validate new modules before pushing them to channel partners and outlines three partner categories. The host does not participate.11:57–14:46 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Channel Economics and the Core Criteria for Partnership Success Dror presents the financial dynamics of onboarding channel partners, explaining the initial cash flow dip and the essential criteria of audience, incentive, and reason. The host is not present.14:48–18:52 · Guest disagreement 0/10 ComplyAuto Case Study: Scaling via Regulatory Compliance Mandates Dror shares the ComplyAuto case study where FTC Safeguard Rule mandates enabled rapid distribution across 4,500 car dealerships. Monologue presentation without host involvement.18:53–23:42 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Partner Metrics, Commission Architecture, and Audience Q&A Dror answers audience questions regarding relinquishing control, channel analytics resources, and criticizes Microsoft's partner renewal commission cuts. The host is not active.0:38–3:58 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Coro's $100M Series D Announcement and Market Vision Solo keynote presentation by Dror Liwer announcing Coro's $100M Series D round and outlining the cybersecurity market gap in the mid-market. The host does not participate in this segment.4:00–8:25 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Shifting from Direct Cold Calling to Channel Distribution Dror details Coro's transition from an outbound cold-calling direct model to an aggressive channel program and modularizing their product architecture. The host is not active.8:26–11:56 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 The Necessity of Direct Sales and Three Partner Archetypes Dror explains why direct sales remains essential to validate new modules before pushing them to channel partners and outlines three partner categories. The host does not participate.11:57–14:46 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Channel Economics and the Core Criteria for Partnership Success Dror presents the financial dynamics of onboarding channel partners, explaining the initial cash flow dip and the essential criteria of audience, incentive, and reason. The host is not present.14:48–18:52 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 ComplyAuto Case Study: Scaling via Regulatory Compliance Mandates Dror shares the ComplyAuto case study where FTC Safeguard Rule mandates enabled rapid distribution across 4,500 car dealerships. Monologue presentation without host involvement.18:53–23:42 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Partner Metrics, Commission Architecture, and Audience Q&A Dror answers audience questions regarding relinquishing control, channel analytics resources, and criticizes Microsoft's partner renewal commission cuts. The host is not active.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 21:55 Calling out Microsoft's partner renewal cuts

Dror criticizes Microsoft for dropping partner commissions from 30 percent to 5 percent upon renewal, arguing it perverse incentives partners to churn customers.

Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 0:04 Nathan Latka intro framework

Nathan establishes the podcast premise and directs listeners to his quantitative SaaS database tool.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 13:05 The three pillars of a successful channel partnership

Dror educates the audience on the non-negotiable Venn diagram of audience, incentive, and reason required to avoid useless paper partnerships.

Nathan holds their own ▶ 0:04 Nathan introduces SaaS metrics benchmarking

Nathan showcases his database platform for filtering thousands of SaaS interviews by metrics such as CAC, churn, and valuation.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicNathan as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementNathan pushing backWhy
Coro's $100M Series D Announcement and Market Vision 0000 Solo keynote presentation by Dror Liwer announcing Coro's $100M Series D round and outlining the cybersecurity market gap in the mid-market. The host does not participate in this segment.
Shifting from Direct Cold Calling to Channel Distribution 0000 Dror details Coro's transition from an outbound cold-calling direct model to an aggressive channel program and modularizing their product architecture. The host is not active.
The Necessity of Direct Sales and Three Partner Archetypes 0000 Dror explains why direct sales remains essential to validate new modules before pushing them to channel partners and outlines three partner categories. The host does not participate.
Channel Economics and the Core Criteria for Partnership Success 0010 Dror presents the financial dynamics of onboarding channel partners, explaining the initial cash flow dip and the essential criteria of audience, incentive, and reason. The host is not present.
ComplyAuto Case Study: Scaling via Regulatory Compliance Mandates 0000 Dror shares the ComplyAuto case study where FTC Safeguard Rule mandates enabled rapid distribution across 4,500 car dealerships. Monologue presentation without host involvement.
Partner Metrics, Commission Architecture, and Audience Q&A 0010 Dror answers audience questions regarding relinquishing control, channel analytics resources, and criticizes Microsoft's partner renewal commission cuts. The host is not active.

Statements from this episode (15)

Assertion Supported
Coro announces $100M Series D led by One Peak
“This morning at six a.m. We announced a one hundred million dollar D round led by One Peak out of London.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 0:57
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Coro grew revenue 300% YoY for three consecutive years
“We've been growing 300% year over year for the last three years straight.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 2:30
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Coro expects to reach $100M ARR by the end of 2024
“So we expect to end this year at around a hundred million, and we're building a billion dollar ARR company in the cybersecurity space.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 2:46
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Enterprise cybersecurity deal sizes typically range from $700K to $1.5M
“So a cybersecurity company normally sells a deal size of anywhere between 700 to 1.5 million dollars.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 4:59
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Coro ended 2023 with 70% of sales from channel partners
“Right now, we are at about 70% channel. Twenty-twenty-three, we ended at 70%.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 8:15
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Coro expects channel sales mix to reach 85% in 2024
“And in twenty-twenty-four, we expect it to be 85%.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 8:21
Insight
Channel partners won't test unproven products; direct sales required
“Direct is our way of testing the market with new products, new concepts. Our channel partners don't have an appetite for testing or adventures or new stuff.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 8:35
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Even channel-dominant companies like Cisco keep direct sales to prove traction
“You can't go all channel immediately. All the companies that sell predominantly through channel have a direct arm as well. Even Cisco, which I think is about 90% channel, has a direct team, and that's because you need to prove to the channel that this stuff wo…”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 9:07
Disclosure
Coro targets nearly 1,000 channel partners by year-end 2024
“We plan to be close to a thousand channel partners by the end of this year.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 9:36
Insight
Founders only have three jobs: selling, corp dev, and fundraising
“I believe that founders have three jobs. Sell, corporate development, fundraising. That's what you need to do in life, right?”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 11:16
Insight
Channel partners take two months to generate revenue, five to profit
“An average channel partner will start generating revenue about two months in and become profitable for you only five months in.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 12:02
Insight
Channel partners not selling to your ICP have zero chance of success
“Audience means that they must be selling, your channel partner or potential partner must be selling to your ICP. If they're not selling to your ICP, the likelihood that they're going to be successful is zero, not two percent.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 13:49
Disclosure
Virtually all 4,500 ComplyAuto dealerships use Coro's platform
“Went to market and virtually all of their 4500 car dealerships are on our platform today.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 17:33
Disclosure
Coro lost millions of dollars on a failed partnership
“You know, you get a lot of partnerships that, there's one partnership that cost us millions of dollars and moved nothing.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 20:09
Assertion Contradicted
Microsoft screws channel partners by cutting renewal commissions to 5%
“Microsoft screws their channel program partners. What do they do? They give them a nice 30% commission on the first year, and a nice five percent commission on the second year when the customer renews.”
Dror Liwer May 28, 2024 ▶ 22:45
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