Mar 3, 2025 · 24m · the-pitch

#43 Get This Party Startup in Here

Julie Roth Novak · 9m spoken Josh Muccio · 4m spoken Phil Nadel · 1m spoken Michael Hyatt · 1m spoken Nicole Verkindt · 1m spoken Charles Hudson · 1m spoken Jillian Manus · 55s spoken
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Julie Roth Novak pitches PartySlate, an event inspiration and visual discovery platform, seeking a three-million-dollar investment on The Pitch. Despite receiving unanimous passes from the investor panel due to valuation and burn rate concerns, Julie later secures $2.5 million anchored by Steve Case's Revolution Rise of the Rest Fund.

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Josh as informed peer 3.6 Guest teaching 3.4 Guest disagreement 2.1 Josh pushing back 4.0
05100:0010:0020:000:48–4:41 · Josh as informed peer 3/10 Meet the Investors Julie introduces PartySlate and explains how the platform utilizes professional photography inspired by Houzz to solve digital marketing pain points for high-end event vendors. The investors ask clarifying baseline questions about platform operations in an agreeable tone.4:41–6:50 · Josh as informed peer 4/10 Monetization Model and Initial Sales Traction Julie outlines the non-transactional subscription model where vendors pay annual fees for boosted placement rather than per-lead fees. The investors probe into MRR and sales figures, which Julie clarifies with initial monetization data.6:53–10:15 · Josh as informed peer 5/10 Revenue Projections and Competitor Differentiation Julie distinguishes PartySlate from Pinterest and The Knot by focusing on high-budget professional events. Investors push back firmly against the ten million dollar valuation and hundred thousand monthly burn rate, leading Nicole to bow out early.10:16–12:52 · Josh as informed peer 4/10 Mid-Pitch Intermission and Stakes Teaser Julie presents her customer acquisition channels and projections to reach four million in revenue within twenty-four months. Michael Hyatt rejects the capital intensity required to scale marketplaces and exits the deal.12:53–15:21 · Josh as informed peer 5/10 Scrutiny of Local Traction and Phil's Exit Phil Nadel presses Julie on why Chicago has only generated twenty thousand dollars in MRR after six months of active monetization in her home market. Julie attempts to defend the numbers using addressable market size, but Phil passes.15:21–17:55 · Josh as informed peer 4/10 Charles and Jillian Pass, Concluding the Pitch Charles passes due to high non-coastal burn and lack of business model clarity, while Jillian passes due to high burn and a portfolio conflict. Julie insists her growth trajectory is rapid before thanking the panel and exiting.17:58–19:30 · Josh as informed peer 0/10 Investors Post-Pitch Debrief and Analysis In a post-pitch investor-only debrief, the investors praise Julie as a credible domain expert but conclude that non-transactional photo platforms struggle to demonstrate direct monetization value.0:48–4:41 · Guest teaching 4/10 Meet the Investors Julie introduces PartySlate and explains how the platform utilizes professional photography inspired by Houzz to solve digital marketing pain points for high-end event vendors. The investors ask clarifying baseline questions about platform operations in an agreeable tone.4:41–6:50 · Guest teaching 5/10 Monetization Model and Initial Sales Traction Julie outlines the non-transactional subscription model where vendors pay annual fees for boosted placement rather than per-lead fees. The investors probe into MRR and sales figures, which Julie clarifies with initial monetization data.6:53–10:15 · Guest teaching 5/10 Revenue Projections and Competitor Differentiation Julie distinguishes PartySlate from Pinterest and The Knot by focusing on high-budget professional events. Investors push back firmly against the ten million dollar valuation and hundred thousand monthly burn rate, leading Nicole to bow out early.10:16–12:52 · Guest teaching 4/10 Mid-Pitch Intermission and Stakes Teaser Julie presents her customer acquisition channels and projections to reach four million in revenue within twenty-four months. Michael Hyatt rejects the capital intensity required to scale marketplaces and exits the deal.12:53–15:21 · Guest teaching 3/10 Scrutiny of Local Traction and Phil's Exit Phil Nadel presses Julie on why Chicago has only generated twenty thousand dollars in MRR after six months of active monetization in her home market. Julie attempts to defend the numbers using addressable market size, but Phil passes.15:21–17:55 · Guest teaching 3/10 Charles and Jillian Pass, Concluding the Pitch Charles passes due to high non-coastal burn and lack of business model clarity, while Jillian passes due to high burn and a portfolio conflict. Julie insists her growth trajectory is rapid before thanking the panel and exiting.17:58–19:30 · Guest teaching 0/10 Investors Post-Pitch Debrief and Analysis In a post-pitch investor-only debrief, the investors praise Julie as a credible domain expert but conclude that non-transactional photo platforms struggle to demonstrate direct monetization value.0:48–4:41 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Meet the Investors Julie introduces PartySlate and explains how the platform utilizes professional photography inspired by Houzz to solve digital marketing pain points for high-end event vendors. The investors ask clarifying baseline questions about platform operations in an agreeable tone.4:41–6:50 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Monetization Model and Initial Sales Traction Julie outlines the non-transactional subscription model where vendors pay annual fees for boosted placement rather than per-lead fees. The investors probe into MRR and sales figures, which Julie clarifies with initial monetization data.6:53–10:15 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Revenue Projections and Competitor Differentiation Julie distinguishes PartySlate from Pinterest and The Knot by focusing on high-budget professional events. Investors push back firmly against the ten million dollar valuation and hundred thousand monthly burn rate, leading Nicole to bow out early.10:16–12:52 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Mid-Pitch Intermission and Stakes Teaser Julie presents her customer acquisition channels and projections to reach four million in revenue within twenty-four months. Michael Hyatt rejects the capital intensity required to scale marketplaces and exits the deal.12:53–15:21 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Scrutiny of Local Traction and Phil's Exit Phil Nadel presses Julie on why Chicago has only generated twenty thousand dollars in MRR after six months of active monetization in her home market. Julie attempts to defend the numbers using addressable market size, but Phil passes.15:21–17:55 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Charles and Jillian Pass, Concluding the Pitch Charles passes due to high non-coastal burn and lack of business model clarity, while Jillian passes due to high burn and a portfolio conflict. Julie insists her growth trajectory is rapid before thanking the panel and exiting.17:58–19:30 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Investors Post-Pitch Debrief and Analysis In a post-pitch investor-only debrief, the investors praise Julie as a credible domain expert but conclude that non-transactional photo platforms struggle to demonstrate direct monetization value.0:48–4:41 · Josh pushing back 1/10 Meet the Investors Julie introduces PartySlate and explains how the platform utilizes professional photography inspired by Houzz to solve digital marketing pain points for high-end event vendors. The investors ask clarifying baseline questions about platform operations in an agreeable tone.4:41–6:50 · Josh pushing back 3/10 Monetization Model and Initial Sales Traction Julie outlines the non-transactional subscription model where vendors pay annual fees for boosted placement rather than per-lead fees. The investors probe into MRR and sales figures, which Julie clarifies with initial monetization data.6:53–10:15 · Josh pushing back 6/10 Revenue Projections and Competitor Differentiation Julie distinguishes PartySlate from Pinterest and The Knot by focusing on high-budget professional events. Investors push back firmly against the ten million dollar valuation and hundred thousand monthly burn rate, leading Nicole to bow out early.10:16–12:52 · Josh pushing back 5/10 Mid-Pitch Intermission and Stakes Teaser Julie presents her customer acquisition channels and projections to reach four million in revenue within twenty-four months. Michael Hyatt rejects the capital intensity required to scale marketplaces and exits the deal.12:53–15:21 · Josh pushing back 7/10 Scrutiny of Local Traction and Phil's Exit Phil Nadel presses Julie on why Chicago has only generated twenty thousand dollars in MRR after six months of active monetization in her home market. Julie attempts to defend the numbers using addressable market size, but Phil passes.15:21–17:55 · Josh pushing back 6/10 Charles and Jillian Pass, Concluding the Pitch Charles passes due to high non-coastal burn and lack of business model clarity, while Jillian passes due to high burn and a portfolio conflict. Julie insists her growth trajectory is rapid before thanking the panel and exiting.17:58–19:30 · Josh pushing back 0/10 Investors Post-Pitch Debrief and Analysis In a post-pitch investor-only debrief, the investors praise Julie as a credible domain expert but conclude that non-transactional photo platforms struggle to demonstrate direct monetization value.

speaking balance: gold is Josh, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Josh 64.5% · guest 35.5%0:00 · Josh 64.5% · guest 35.5%3:00 · Josh 20.6% · guest 79.4%3:00 · Josh 20.6% · guest 79.4%6:00 · Josh 5.1% · guest 94.9%6:00 · Josh 5.1% · guest 94.9%9:00 · Josh 11.1% · guest 88.9%9:00 · Josh 11.1% · guest 88.9%12:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%12:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%15:00 · Josh 4.8% · guest 95.2%15:00 · Josh 4.8% · guest 95.2%18:00 · Josh 22.5% · guest 77.5%18:00 · Josh 22.5% · guest 77.5%21:00 · Josh 42.9% · guest 57.1%21:00 · Josh 42.9% · guest 57.1%24:00 · Josh 100% · guest 0%24:00 · Josh 100% · guest 0%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 8:12 Julie rejects Pinterest comparison

Julie firmly dismisses Nicole's suggestion that consumers just use Pinterest, arguing Pinterest is for DIY sleepovers whereas PartySlate serves high-stakes professionally planned events.

Hardest push from Josh ▶ 13:33 Phil refuses Chicago traction framing

Phil refuses to accept Julie's ramp-up excuses, asserting that twenty thousand dollars MRR after six months in her home city is inadequate for a ten million valuation.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 5:03 Julie explains why event platforms cannot be transactional

Julie educates the investors on the realities of high-end event planning, explaining that clients inevitably take transactions offline after viewing portfolios rather than buying on-site.

Josh holds their own ▶ 15:21 Michael diagnoses valuation ceiling dynamics

Michael leverages his software founder background to explain how successive fundraising rounds create unrealistic valuation ceilings when revenue growth lags behind VC expectations.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJosh as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJosh pushing backWhy
Meet the Investors 3411 Julie introduces PartySlate and explains how the platform utilizes professional photography inspired by Houzz to solve digital marketing pain points for high-end event vendors. The investors ask clarifying baseline questions about platform operations in an agreeable tone.
Monetization Model and Initial Sales Traction 4523 Julie outlines the non-transactional subscription model where vendors pay annual fees for boosted placement rather than per-lead fees. The investors probe into MRR and sales figures, which Julie clarifies with initial monetization data.
Revenue Projections and Competitor Differentiation 5536 Julie distinguishes PartySlate from Pinterest and The Knot by focusing on high-budget professional events. Investors push back firmly against the ten million dollar valuation and hundred thousand monthly burn rate, leading Nicole to bow out early.
Mid-Pitch Intermission and Stakes Teaser 4425 Julie presents her customer acquisition channels and projections to reach four million in revenue within twenty-four months. Michael Hyatt rejects the capital intensity required to scale marketplaces and exits the deal.
Scrutiny of Local Traction and Phil's Exit 5347 Phil Nadel presses Julie on why Chicago has only generated twenty thousand dollars in MRR after six months of active monetization in her home market. Julie attempts to defend the numbers using addressable market size, but Phil passes.
Charles and Jillian Pass, Concluding the Pitch 4336 Charles passes due to high non-coastal burn and lack of business model clarity, while Jillian passes due to high burn and a portfolio conflict. Julie insists her growth trajectory is rapid before thanking the panel and exiting.
Investors Post-Pitch Debrief and Analysis 0000 In a post-pitch investor-only debrief, the investors praise Julie as a credible domain expert but conclude that non-transactional photo platforms struggle to demonstrate direct monetization value.

Statements from this episode (17)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Novak: PartySlate Has 300K Photos, 4K Pros, and 150 Paying Customers
“We've launched two years ago. We have 300,000 photos uploaded to the site to date. We have 4000 event professionals sharing their photos, and we have a 150 paying customers.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 3:50
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Julie Roth Novak: PartySlate booked $340K in first five months
“We have 340,000 dollars sold in the first five months of our monetization.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 5:54
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Novak: PartySlate is at $40K MRR, forecasts $100K by year-end
“Our MRR is 40,000 right now, and are forecasted to be a 100,000 by the end of the year.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 6:04
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Julie Roth Novak: Wolfgang Puck Catering bought nine PartySlate memberships
“Wolfgang Puck Catering Group bought nine registered, nine memberships for all of their catering groups, not even their restaurants or private spaces, but for catering.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 6:26
Opinion
Novak: The Knot and WeddingWire are mass-market; PartySlate targets high budgets
“So the knot and wedding wire are very mass market, and they're great sites, but they say eight out of 10 brides come to the knot, and some of them have small budgets, some of them are doing things that you do it yourself, and what we're doing is going after pe…”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 7:28
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
PartySlate previously raised $1.9M pre-seed at a $5.5M pre-money valuation
“Then we raised a pre-seed round of 1.9 million at a five five pre a seven four post.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 8:52
Disclosure
Novak is raising a $3M seed round at a $10M valuation
“Now we're raising a three million dollar seed round at a ten million dollar valuation.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 8:58
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Novak: PartySlate burns $100K per month with 15 employees
“Our current burn rate is about a 100,000. And we have 15 people.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 9:31
Disclosure
Verkindt passes on PartySlate over competition, valuation, and high burn
“I have to, I'm going to pass just because the B to C space is a bit murky for me and it just feels like There's so many different types of competitors in this space, so, and plus it's a pretty big valuation, a lot of cash, so I'm just gonna pass just to put th…”
Nicole Verkindt Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 9:58
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Novak: PartySlate amassed 300,000 photos in two years, beating The Knot's 200,000
“So the knot that's been around for 20 years has about 200,000 photos. In our first two years we've had 300,000 photos.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 11:28
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Novak: PartySlate acquires emails for $1.50 and paid clicks for $0.05
“It's about to get an email address, it's about a dollar 50, but we're getting clicks through Facebook and others when we do paid marketing at about five cents. So it's a very low cost of acquisition.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 11:52
Insight
Hudson: Non-coastal startups typically burn less cash, even adjusted for headcount
“And typically I see a slightly lower burn, even just adjusted for a head count in non Bay area, non coastal cities.”
Charles Hudson Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 15:57
Insight
Hudson: Successful marketplaces scale by repeating one simple action a thousand times
“The path for most of the marketplace investments I make, The path to getting big is really simple. Like I can see it. I'm like, okay, we do this one thing. We're just gonna do it a thousand times more often than we do it today. And it tends to be doing the sam…”
Charles Hudson Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 16:09
Disclosure
Manus passes on PartySlate over valuation, burn rate, and low revenue
“But I think for the same reason, the valuation's too high the burn is too high, and the revenues are really, really They're too low. High, high, low.”
Jillian Manus Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 17:18
Opinion
Hyatt: A Silicon Valley version of PartySlate would burn $20M to $40M
“Marketplaces take a lot of money, but I think it actually takes more money than she's raising. I think she was a valley company, and Charles, correct me if I'm wrong, you'd be 20, 30, forty million in, and you'd be pumping way more cash in, and trying to get t…”
Michael Hyatt Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 18:11
Opinion
Novak: VC Brad Feld agrees that Pinterest is not a PartySlate competitor
“I know I've had many talks with Brad Feld, who's a, you know, one of the leading VCs in the country, and he said to me over and over, Pinterest is not your competitor, and we agree a hundred percent.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 21:39
Assertion Supported
Novak: PartySlate secured $2.5M, backed by Revolution's Rise of the Rest
“And since that time, I'm excited to share that we've raised 2.5 million of our three million dollar round. And the great news is two weeks ago Revolution Ventures their rise of the rest fund just joined the round.”
Julie Roth Novak Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 22:29
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