Boundless

30 statements across 2 episodes · 18 bullish · 6 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Mar 3, 2025 by Xiao Wang · said 19 times in 2 episodes since 2025 · across every show →

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Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: There are 2 million U.S. green card applications a year
“If you look at the category just in the U.S., right, there are two million total green card and naturalization applications a year. There are about twelve million sort of non-immigrant applications a year, so those are like work visas, travel visas, student vi…”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 6:19 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025
Assertion Partly supported
Wang: Over 60% of 9M eligible immigrants don't naturalize due to lack of information
“There are nine million people who are eligible to naturalize and don't, and when they did a nationwide survey, they found that, like, over 60% was because they had no information about how to naturalize, and that's, like, exactly what we did.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 12:40 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Manus: I'd be honored to invest to fortify our country's foundation
“I do want to come in, and I want to help you get this done. And I would be honored, actually, to invest in a company that would create an easier path to fortify the foundation of this country with immigrants, not without immigrants.”
Jillian Manus Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 18:09 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wang: Boundless will retain green card customers for subsequent immigration applications
“In two years, they have to go from a conditional to a permanent green card, which is another transaction, and then a year after that, they can do naturalization, which is another transaction. There's no reason they would go to anyone else for their future appl…”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 10:13 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Nadel: Boundless has huge lifetime value potential as a data play
“I see huge opportunities for lifetime LTV in this, both through additional sort of immigration services and wraparound services and other things that you can do with the data. It's a data play, and there's a lot of value there, and it's a data play, but it's a…”
Phil Nadel Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 16:35 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 negative
Opinion
Hyatt: Boundless is a service business, not a SaaS company
“And this is service business. This is not a SaaS company.”
Michael Hyatt Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 21:47 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Wang: Boundless reached over 150 customers, growing 50% month-over-month
“So we've had a little over a 150. Since we launched in September. So we've been growing 50% month over month in terms of number of customers.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 5:34 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Opinion
Manus: Xiao Wang checks every box for an early-stage founder
“If you take apart a founder, right, and you take apart a product at the very early stages he checks every single box. And then some.”
Jillian Manus Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 18:54 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Wang: Boundless CAC is over $400 on a $500 price point
“So as of now, so of 500 dollars our customer acquisition cost is a little over 400 dollars.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 7:41 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Xiao Wang: U.S. Immigration Lawyer Count Has Grown 10x in 30 Years
“In the 30 years since I went through this journey, the only thing that has changed in this industry are that legal fees have gone up, and there are 10 times as many immigration lawyers in this country.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 1:50 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nadel: Boundless CAC declined significantly post-pitch
“Customer acquisition cost has come down, has declined quite a bit since he pitched us.”
Phil Nadel Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 25:49 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025
Disclosure
Wang: Boundless holds $2M in cash remaining from seed round
“I have two million in the bank. I raised the seed round last April. I have most of the rounds still.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 10:56 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bearish
Disclosure
Hyatt: Boundless is not investable right now
“My, when I step back and I look at this I don't think your business is actually that investable right now. What I expected to hear was after raising three and a half million, that you would have thought through the business a little more. I wanted you to come …”
Michael Hyatt Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 13:56 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Wang: Phil Nadel is coming in for $300k
“So he is coming in for 300.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 24:16 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Galadia: Xiao Wang is a tier-one founder and I will invest
“So I would like to invest, but overall, I think you're a tier one founder operating in a pretty interesting space with the opportunity to build a really big business. So we'd love to back you.”
Daniel Gulati Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 15:49 #32 Is Immigration the Next Venture-Scale Business?
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Phil Nadel offers to invest in Boundless
“I really have a great feeling about you, and I just like your approach, and I'd like to invest.”
Phil Nadel Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 13:54 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Xiao Wang: Boundless loses money on every new customer upfront
“I can be blunt and say, look, we are not, we are losing money per customer. And that's ok. And because we are, we believe that if they have a great experience, that, you know, they will come back to us for future immigration needs.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 25:02 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Xiao Wang: Boundless raised an $8 million Series A
“We raised a little under eight million dollars.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 27:29 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Muccio: Boundless raised $3M despite two on-air investors backing out
“Not long after he pitched our investors, Shao closed his three million dollar round, despite the fact that Daniel and Jillian bailed.”
Josh Muccio Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 19:21 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Wang: Boundless reached 150 customers with 50 percent MoM growth
“So we've had a little over a 150. Since we launched in September. So we've been growing 50% month over month in terms of number of customers.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 6:06 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wang: Boundless relies on high retention for subsequent immigration filings
“In two years, they have to go from a conditional to a permanent green card, which is another transaction, and then a year after that, they can do naturalization, which is another transaction. There's no reason they would go to anyone else for their future appl…”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 9:24 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Wang: US marriage green cards are a $200M market for Boundless
“So there are 400,000 marriage green card applications a year. We charge a 500 dollar fee for our service. So that means, yeah, this is a two hundred million dollar market”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 5:23 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Hyatt: Boundless is a service business, not a SaaS company
“And this is service business. This is not a SaaS company.”
Michael Hyatt Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 18:13 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Jillian Manus offers to invest in Boundless
“I do want to come in, and I want to help you get this done, and I would be honored, actually, to invest in a company that would create a An easier path to fortify the foundation of this country with immigrants, not without immigrants.”
Jillian Manus Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 14:54 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025
Disclosure
Wang: Boundless spends over $400 to acquire a $500 customer
“Out of 500 dollars our customer acquisition cost is a little over 400 dollars.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 7:09 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Michael Hyatt: Boundless is not an investable business right now
“I guess my, when I step back and I look at this I don't think your business is actually that investable right now.”
Michael Hyatt Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 11:41 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Daniel Gulati offers to invest in Boundless
“So I would like to Invest. But overall, I think you're a tier one founder operating in a pretty interesting space. With the opportunity to build a really big business. So, we'd love to back you.”
Daniel Gulati Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 12:46 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Wang: Immigration lawyers multiplied tenfold in 30 years
“In the 30 years since I went through this journey, the only thing that has changed in this industry are that legal fees have gone up, and there are 10 times as many immigration lawyers in this country.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 2:22 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Phil Nadel invested nearly $350,000 in Boundless
“But Phil, he invested almost 350 K.”
Josh Muccio Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 19:36 When You Grow Too Fast
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: Boundless grew its customer count 5x in one year
“We have dramatically increased our number of customers to the point where, you know, we are now five to six times larger than we were in the span of a year.”
Xiao Wang Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 20:33 When You Grow Too Fast
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