Vollset: Despite 20+ meetings, zero PE firms bid on Zyra Talk
Einar Vollset · Episode 836 | The 5 A.I. Moats Acquirers Value Most · Jun 9, 2026 · at 30:53
Einar Vollset of Discretion Capital shares a case study illustrating how private equity acquirers walk away from AI-native SaaS companies due to disruption fears.
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“We had a business that we were selling. A company was called Zyra Talk. It was basically a AI voice agent, like a receptionist for like HVAC and all this stuff. This business had great metrics on every measure, on growth, on retention, integrations, they had everything. We showed them to the market. We had tons and tons of interest, lots of strategic interest, lots of private equity interest, and they actually ended up selling to Fortune, I think they're Fortune, probably a company called Evercommerce. So they sold to a pure strategic. But the private equity guys, like tons of interest, and like, Usually the way it works for private, like, during an auction is, like, you're going to market and, like, you show them all the marketing materials, and the people who are really interested will do, like, a management meeting and meet them prior to making a bid. And I think we had something like, 22 or 23 management meetings, which is quite high. And I was expecting, like, ok, we're going to get, like, an avalanche of LOIs for this, because metrics are great, lots of management meetings, why wouldn't we? But not a single one of the private equity firms even put in an LOI. It became a fight between strategics in that auction.”
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