DeepSeek

6 statements across 5 episodes · 2 bullish · 2 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Feb 14, 2025 by Molly O'Shea · said 18 times in 9 episodes since 2025 · across every show →

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Feb 14, 2025 bearish
Opinion
O'Shea: AI models are a commodity product with zero customer loyalty
“They're using it, like, it's, like, it's commodity business, we all know that. Like, we've known that from the beginning, so I don't know why we go through these circular phases of, like, thinking it's gonna change the world, and it's, like, a power law thing,…”
Molly O'Shea Feb 14, 2025 ▶ 56:26 How Writing Led To Investing In Ramp, Scale AI, Replit, Varda | Packy McCormick, Not Boring · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
Feb 14, 2025 neutral
Opinion
McCormick: DeepSeek represents doing the same thing cheaper, not a qualitative leap
“My DeepSeek point is that, like, This, like, crack team that figured out all these algorithms, breakthroughs, and whatever, essentially just figured out how to do the same thing cheaper. Like, there hasn't been any leap that I've seen that I've been like, yeah…”
Packy McCormick Feb 14, 2025 ▶ 50:12 How Writing Led To Investing In Ramp, Scale AI, Replit, Varda | Packy McCormick, Not Boring · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
Oct 10, 2025
Insight
Siddharth: Reasoning models ended demand for simple AI data factories
“This industry had a huge shift after the reasoning models came out late last year, O-one being the first. The shift is, before the reasoning models, this industry needed simple data. Gobs and gobs of simple data. You needed a data factory. Or, ah, this industr…”
Jonathan Siddharth Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 12:02 Inside The $2.2B AI Research Accelerator | Turing · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
May 15, 2026 bullish
Insight
Rangwalla: AI Efficiency Breakthroughs Will Drive Adoption via Jevons Paradox
“If let's say that the deep seek moment that happened you know, last year, another moment like that happens where someone figures out a model that can do all the calculations with less power, less Semiconductors, less memory, all of that. If that happens, it is…”
Jaimin Rangwalla May 15, 2026 ▶ 53:17 Chips, Gigawatts, AI, & Agents: Coatue's Public Markets Update | CIO Jaimin Rangwalla · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
Jul 10, 2026 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Banister: China will train AI on Western IP and sell output back
“And then what's really going to happen is China will sell our art back to us. So they're going to steal it all anyway, because they don't care. And they're just going to basically come back to us with these models, which we've seen with DeepSeek and everything…”
Cyan Banister Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 55:34 "Dig Through Your Couches. SpaceX Needs It." Cyan Banister on Luke Nosek's Pitch · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
Jul 17, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Liang: SambaNova serves 1.5T parameter models on one rack versus 10-20
“And so with sum it over, that minimum quantum is down to one rack. Right, where if you have other, other service providers, you just run, say, a DeepSeq model, which is now one and a half trillion parameters, just to run that, the minimum for some of the other…”
Rodrigo Liang Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 8:22 Inference 101: SambaNova CEO Rodrigo Liang · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
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