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Shah: Serving upmarket and low-end customers creates synergistic product advantages
“The investment we make on our upper market, 202,000 segment, we have these features that we add that we can kind of subside. We're making money. Yes. And then over time, our MO is we pull those down to lower tiers all the way down to the free tier. And so it b…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 18, 2022 ▶ 20:45 The Secrets to Scaling with HubSpot's Founders Dharmesh Shah and Brian Halligan and SaaStr's CEO
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Shah: Word-of-mouth growth depends on total happy users, not wallet share
“The reality is word of mouth is not a function of how much revenue you're making from a customer. Word of mouth is based on how many people love your product that are out there in the world. And it's much easier to do that and get that mind share versus, so lo…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 18, 2022 ▶ 46:24 The Secrets to Scaling with HubSpot's Founders Dharmesh Shah and Brian Halligan and SaaStr's CEO
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Shah: Standard SaaS LTV calculations underestimate long-term multi-product customer value
“The one thing we miss is that LTV as it's currently measured is based on our current churn rate and current market dynamics. Here's what a customer is worth that we sold right now. But if you've been out for a little while and you're like, oh, maybe we might a…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 18, 2022 ▶ 47:03 The Secrets to Scaling with HubSpot's Founders Dharmesh Shah and Brian Halligan and SaaStr's CEO
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Shah: Higher CAC is justified by the option value of unreleased products
“There is a non-zero value for those customers beyond the LTV around what other things that we don't exist yet in the product portfolio that we will be able to sell them once we have them as customers. And I think that makes the math more interesting in terms o…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 8, 2020 ▶ 26:28 On Launching a Second Product with Dharmesh Shah, CTO / Co-Founder HubSpot
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Shah: People debt has a higher interest rate than tech debt
“There is such a thing as people debt, right? It's like, okay, well, I'm taking the shortcut right now, and I'm gonna hire all engineers, or all designers, or all product people, and no one in kind of people or the other kind of related disciplines, and I think…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 5, 2018 ▶ 21:44 How to Build Happier Employees - Founder & CTO and Chief People Officer at HubSpot
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Shah: Employee turnover is more expensive than customer churn in SaaS
“In terms of employee retention, you have to earn the employee base every month, every quarter, every year, and they are much more valuable than any individual customer that you have. And we obsess over turn As a SaaS industry, which we should. Turning the, ah,…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 5, 2018 ▶ 37:07 How to Build Happier Employees - Founder & CTO and Chief People Officer at HubSpot
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Shah: Long enterprise sales cycles severely delay finding product-market fit
“Enterprise software sucks as a life. You've got these extended sales cycles. It takes you so long to figure out product market fit because you don't get as many data points back.”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 18, 2022 ▶ 5:31 The Secrets to Scaling with HubSpot's Founders Dharmesh Shah and Brian Halligan and SaaStr's CEO
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Shah: Fortune 1000 buyers tolerate poor usability via expensive consultant armies
“Now, in the Fortune 1000 market, that's not that big a deal. Usability, yeah, people like it, It's not a huge deal because they have armies of consultants that can do implementations. They have the budget, they have pain tolerance, which an SMB just does not h…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 8, 2020 ▶ 14:01 On Launching a Second Product with Dharmesh Shah, CTO / Co-Founder HubSpot
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Shah: SMBs sacrifice best-of-breed features for the convenience of unified suites
“Most customers, in my mind, especially in SMB, Would sacrifice some best of breedness, so to speak, for the convenience of having a single support phone number to call, a single UI that you have to learn.”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 8, 2020 ▶ 20:45 On Launching a Second Product with Dharmesh Shah, CTO / Co-Founder HubSpot
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Shah: SaaS companies must track user career trajectories across multiple employers
“I think one of the things that will make for successful SaaS companies in the future, this is what we're working on, is this kind of connected ecosystem. Like, we should know not just which companies have bought from us, which people have bought from us and tr…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 8, 2020 ▶ 28:40 On Launching a Second Product with Dharmesh Shah, CTO / Co-Founder HubSpot
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Shah: Treat company culture as an evolving product
“I think we should think about culture as a product, and the team, the people, the employees, as the customers of that product. And so all the things that apply in building a product, you would never build a product without talking to customers. Unheard of. You…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 5, 2018 ▶ 5:03 How to Build Happier Employees - Founder & CTO and Chief People Officer at HubSpot
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Shah: Adding a second product increases business complexity exponentially
“Shifting from being a kind of marketing apps company and going from product N equals one to product kind of N equals two. That's a dimensional change in complexity of the business. Everything gets kind of not Linearly harder, but exponentially harder.”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 18, 2022 ▶ 3:42 The Secrets to Scaling with HubSpot's Founders Dharmesh Shah and Brian Halligan and SaaStr's CEO
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Shah: SMB software combines enterprise monetization with consumer market scale
“Beauty of SMB is that you have the kind of old fashionedness of enterprise, which is you can charge money for software, but you have the scale of consumer where there's millions of them out there to be served.”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 18, 2022 ▶ 5:55 The Secrets to Scaling with HubSpot's Founders Dharmesh Shah and Brian Halligan and SaaStr's CEO
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Shah: Multi-product expansion requires total strategic commitment, not casual experiments
“We decided we were going to do CRM. It was not an experiment. We're like, I don't care if it takes us three years or five years or seven years or eternity. We're going to make this work. And so that, like, then the universe kind of lines in your interest, like…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 18, 2022 ▶ 50:08 The Secrets to Scaling with HubSpot's Founders Dharmesh Shah and Brian Halligan and SaaStr's CEO
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Shah: Publicizing company culture drives candidate self-selection
“Actually putting your culture out there has been immensely valuable for us, and the reason is, ah, you have a great culture, But by the act of publicizing it, we got a bunch of, like, positive self-selection. People read the deck, and either they said, oh, the…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 5, 2018 ▶ 4:28 How to Build Happier Employees - Founder & CTO and Chief People Officer at HubSpot
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Shah: Treat recurring workplace culture issues as product bugs
“Every issue that comes in, essentially is a product bug in our cultures. Like there's something wrong. Right now, you wouldn't fix every issue that came through, like if a customer reported, But if you see a pattern, it's like seven people said this was a prob…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 5, 2018 ▶ 36:38 How to Build Happier Employees - Founder & CTO and Chief People Officer at HubSpot
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Shah: Early culture decks should define hiring profiles, not lofty values
“So the V one is not like, oh, here are lofty kind of vision goals or whatever. It's like, here are the kinds of people that tend to work out well that we tend to enjoy working with or whatever, and figure that out first. And that's much easier than coming up w…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 5, 2018 ▶ 40:18 How to Build Happier Employees - Founder & CTO and Chief People Officer at HubSpot
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Shah: Leaders must communicate culture incessantly despite employee fatigue
“The first rule of Cultural Club, you do talk about culture. Second rule of culture club. You talk about culture incessantly. You can't stop talking about culture. It's going to be painful. It's going to be painful. If your team yells, it's like, stop. We get i…”
Dharmesh Shah Oct 5, 2018 ▶ 17:50 How to Build Happier Employees - Founder & CTO and Chief People Officer at HubSpot
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