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Butterfield: Microsoft Teams competes primarily with Zoom rather than Slack
“Teams, which is the real alternative in some sense, although I think it's much more of a competitor to Zoom or other voice and video calling services than it is a Slack.”
Lemkin claims it is entirely impossible to build sales relationships over Zoom
“I think it is impossible to build a relationship on zoom.”
Lemkin: SaaS Profitability is Meaningless Without Zoom-Level 50% Margins
“Profitable is not enough unless you're utterly insanely profitable like Zoom. For every dollar Zoom brings in, 50 cents goes to the bottom line.”
Lemkin: Digital AI sales engineers will soon join live sales calls
“I think A digital SE like this is Brian Halligan's digital one on Delphi is going to come to the zooms. The human it's a person is going to be there. And I brought this up and Dara said, give me another release and this will be full duplex. Like my AI and Bria…”
Zoom Demanded SaaStr Upgrade to 40 Seats and Prepay Four Years
“Twice they sent us bills out of the blue telling us we had to upgrade to 40 seats and prepay four years annually.”
Gross: Zoom During COVID Was the BlackBerry Era of Video Collaboration
“We're going to think about Zoom and hanging out in COVID times. As the BlackBerry era, not the iPhone era, this stuff.”
Lemkin: Humans Will Bring AI Agents to Every Meeting Within 12 Months
“I actually think within 12 months, this agent human combination, I think every single zoom, every single meeting. Every sales rep, every cast member, every person human should come with their AI.”
Lemkin: Self-serve SaaS products require far higher quality than enterprise software
“This is the other mistake a lot of folks make that come from a sales background. They don't realize how great a self-serve product has to be like so much better than enterprise, any enterprise or even mid-market product in the world. Like the onboarding doesn'…”
Bonnici: Whereby will not target enterprise to compete with Zoom
“We don't want to go after the enterprise for zoom, right? Like we're not going to do that. That's not our game. I think we want to do what HubSpot did for the SMBs for companies using video conferencing and make like an amazing, easy to use experience that the…”
Bonnici: Zoom is clunky and lacks personality and humanity
“I don't think many people feel a lot of love for zoom. There's no humanity. There's no personality. It's clunky AF.”
LaRue: Prospects assume sales reps know everything their booking AI knows
“You will need to do this working theory more and more, the more the AI sets up these calls and meetings for you, because you yourself may not know as much about this company as your AI does, but if it got the meeting for you, the person who comes to the Zoom
W…”
Lemkin: Slack and Zoom Avoided Price Hikes for Years Early On
“Slack and zoom never raised prices for years. Slack was disruptive in the early days because it implemented what it called the fair billing policy. And if you didn't use seats, they didn't charge you for them.”
Lemkin: Zoom Trades at 3.8x Despite Generating $2B Free Cash Flow
“Zooms at four over four billion in revenue. Half of it is free cash flow. Zoom is generating two billion of cash out of its four billion. No one cares. It's worth three and 3.8 X revenue.”
Ram: Processing Zoom backgrounds locally on AI PCs doubles laptop battery life
“As an example, we're running virtual backgrounds on local AI PC. If you're sitting in a coffee shop and running a Zoom meeting, it doubles The battery life of your machine by having that run locally.”
Lemkin: Zoom is nearly halting follow-on equity grants under Wall Street pressure
“Zoom says they're almost stopping issuing follow on grants because Wall Street won't let them do it.”
Gross: Vimeo switched from Zoom to Google Meet to cut costs
“You switched from zoom to Google me, which we did.”
Pelosi: Zoom ran out-of-home ads and proprietary measurement strictly in-house
“Yeah, we did it all in house, and that's where, you know, it doesn't have to be super sexy, but it also doesn't have to be incredibly boring, and I think it goes back to the metrics. We couldn't find any metrics, any vendor, anything traditionally out there fo…”
Pelosi: Zoom pursued profitability and triple-digit growth before it was mainstream
“It was profitable or bust before anybody was talking about that. Triple digit, same thing, right? Growth mattered, and it was all of us getting into a room, coming up with that plan”
Seibel: Founders must earn investor attention every two minutes of a pitch
“A lot of people think that an investor is going to sit down for a 30 minute meeting and give them 30 minutes of their time. It's not true. Especially on Zoom, it's very not true. You earn every two minutes of that meeting. If the last two minutes sucked, that …”
Lemkin: SaaS Revenue in Tight Markets Requires Stealing Vendor Budgets
“CIOs, small businesses do not have unlimited money. There's a fixed amount, and if you disrupt something, if you do something better than Salesforce or Zoom or HubSpot or Slack or even UiPath, if you do something that is 10 times better, you will get money, bu…”
Lemkin: SaaS CEOs Should Do 10 Customer Zooms Weekly
“As a CEO, you've got to be doing 10 Zooms a week. And as a CS professional, you should be doing three to four day, right? If you can.”
Robinson: Zoom has captured more than 64% market share in video conferencing
“And they've now achieved more than 64% of market share, and it continues to grow.”
Headley: Recruiting must shift outbound when sales shifts outbound
“Remember that just as your sales might need to move from inbound to outbound, so might your recruiting efforts.”
Headley: Sales managers with open quotas often rush to hire suboptimal candidates
“Anytime a manager has open headcount, they typically have open quota and they will be excited to close maybe that first person and they might not be the best person that aligns.”
Headley: Sales onboarding should target 20 outcomes across four daily sessions
“What are the top 20 things that you want your reps to walk away with, and why is it 20? Because you can structure your five day a week new hire training, two sessions in the morning, two afternoon, And that's where adults can really learn, and that's about wha…”
Butterfield: Slack spends twice as much on Workday as its own software
“You know, we spend, as a multiple of what we would sell Slack to ourselves, obviously we get Slack for free, but we spend about two X that on a work day. And I'm thinking of things that are like basically company-wide. We also spend about two X that on Zoom be…”
Lemkin: Do not confuse easy VC Zoom discovery calls with closable deals
“I'm personally not that interested in discovery, but folks that want to learn a lot, they'll take Zooms and meetings they might not always have time for, and that does not mean that that that deal has a high chance of closing. So there's almost strain, can be …”
Lemkin: Zoom is growing at 4% annually on $4 billion revenue
“Zoom's under pressure. They're growing four percent a year at four billion.”
Lemkin: Zoom Stalled For Three Years After Hitting $4B In 2021
“Zoom in one year went from one to four billion in revenue from whatever mid-twenty-twenty-twenty-twenty-one went from one to four billion from twenty-twenty to twenty-twenty-one. Anyone know what Zoom's revenue is today? Four billion. So one year quadrupled an…”
Pelosi: Zoom grew from 2,400 to over 8,000 employees in 18 months
“We went from, I think it was right around 2400 employees to over 8000 in about 18 months.”