May 3, 2018 · 31m · saastr

State of the Cloud: 2018 Edition

Byron Deeter · 19m spoken Christina Shen · 8m spoken
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In Bessemer Venture Partners' 'State of the Cloud 2018' keynote, Byron Deeter and Christina Shen analyze macroeconomic SaaS growth, introduce the BVP ARG valuation metric, and outline forward-looking predictions spanning serverless architecture, APIs, enterprise blockchain, and embedded payments.

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05100:0010:0020:0030:000:59–4:07 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 2017 Macro Trends: Crypto, AI, and Tech Dominance This is a monologue presentation keynote delivered to a live conference audience with no host presence or interruption. Byron Deeter outlines high-level macro technology trends from 2017 including crypto, AI bots, and tech dominance in market capitalization. With zero conversational friction or host dialogue, all interaction metrics remain at baseline.4:08–7:34 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Public Cloud Performance and the Unicorn Backlog Byron continues the solo presentation, detailing public cloud index gains, low tech IPO volumes, and the backlog of private cloud unicorns. There is no host involvement or disagreement during this conference stage presentation.7:35–15:10 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Cloud Valuation Frameworks and the BVP ARG Metric Christina Shen takes over the stage presentation to introduce Bessemer's growth benchmarks and the BVP ARG metric for cloud valuation. As a solo presentation slide deck, there is no host participation or pushback.15:10–20:39 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Reviewing Bessemer's Historical Cloud Investment Roadmaps Christina reviews Bessemer's historical 2013 roadmaps and portfolio success before handing the presentation back to Byron, who introduces Function as a Service. The format remains a pure conference presentation without host interaction.20:39–25:24 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 2018 Predictions: API Economy, Blockchain, and Payments as a Service Byron delivers 2018 predictions covering the expansion of the API economy, enterprise blockchain use cases, and software embedding payments as a service. No host is present to contest or question the analysis.25:24–30:51 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 2018 Predictions: Screenless Software, Culture, and Global Cloud Expansion Byron concludes the keynote by outlining trends toward screenless enterprise software, culture and corporate values, and the international decentralization of cloud entrepreneurship. The session finishes as a uninterrupted keynote.0:59–4:07 · Guest teaching 0/10 2017 Macro Trends: Crypto, AI, and Tech Dominance This is a monologue presentation keynote delivered to a live conference audience with no host presence or interruption. Byron Deeter outlines high-level macro technology trends from 2017 including crypto, AI bots, and tech dominance in market capitalization. With zero conversational friction or host dialogue, all interaction metrics remain at baseline.4:08–7:34 · Guest teaching 0/10 Public Cloud Performance and the Unicorn Backlog Byron continues the solo presentation, detailing public cloud index gains, low tech IPO volumes, and the backlog of private cloud unicorns. There is no host involvement or disagreement during this conference stage presentation.7:35–15:10 · Guest teaching 0/10 Cloud Valuation Frameworks and the BVP ARG Metric Christina Shen takes over the stage presentation to introduce Bessemer's growth benchmarks and the BVP ARG metric for cloud valuation. As a solo presentation slide deck, there is no host participation or pushback.15:10–20:39 · Guest teaching 0/10 Reviewing Bessemer's Historical Cloud Investment Roadmaps Christina reviews Bessemer's historical 2013 roadmaps and portfolio success before handing the presentation back to Byron, who introduces Function as a Service. The format remains a pure conference presentation without host interaction.20:39–25:24 · Guest teaching 0/10 2018 Predictions: API Economy, Blockchain, and Payments as a Service Byron delivers 2018 predictions covering the expansion of the API economy, enterprise blockchain use cases, and software embedding payments as a service. No host is present to contest or question the analysis.25:24–30:51 · Guest teaching 0/10 2018 Predictions: Screenless Software, Culture, and Global Cloud Expansion Byron concludes the keynote by outlining trends toward screenless enterprise software, culture and corporate values, and the international decentralization of cloud entrepreneurship. The session finishes as a uninterrupted keynote.0:59–4:07 · Guest disagreement 0/10 2017 Macro Trends: Crypto, AI, and Tech Dominance This is a monologue presentation keynote delivered to a live conference audience with no host presence or interruption. Byron Deeter outlines high-level macro technology trends from 2017 including crypto, AI bots, and tech dominance in market capitalization. With zero conversational friction or host dialogue, all interaction metrics remain at baseline.4:08–7:34 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Public Cloud Performance and the Unicorn Backlog Byron continues the solo presentation, detailing public cloud index gains, low tech IPO volumes, and the backlog of private cloud unicorns. There is no host involvement or disagreement during this conference stage presentation.7:35–15:10 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Cloud Valuation Frameworks and the BVP ARG Metric Christina Shen takes over the stage presentation to introduce Bessemer's growth benchmarks and the BVP ARG metric for cloud valuation. As a solo presentation slide deck, there is no host participation or pushback.15:10–20:39 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Reviewing Bessemer's Historical Cloud Investment Roadmaps Christina reviews Bessemer's historical 2013 roadmaps and portfolio success before handing the presentation back to Byron, who introduces Function as a Service. The format remains a pure conference presentation without host interaction.20:39–25:24 · Guest disagreement 0/10 2018 Predictions: API Economy, Blockchain, and Payments as a Service Byron delivers 2018 predictions covering the expansion of the API economy, enterprise blockchain use cases, and software embedding payments as a service. No host is present to contest or question the analysis.25:24–30:51 · Guest disagreement 0/10 2018 Predictions: Screenless Software, Culture, and Global Cloud Expansion Byron concludes the keynote by outlining trends toward screenless enterprise software, culture and corporate values, and the international decentralization of cloud entrepreneurship. The session finishes as a uninterrupted keynote.0:59–4:07 · Jason pushing back 0/10 2017 Macro Trends: Crypto, AI, and Tech Dominance This is a monologue presentation keynote delivered to a live conference audience with no host presence or interruption. Byron Deeter outlines high-level macro technology trends from 2017 including crypto, AI bots, and tech dominance in market capitalization. With zero conversational friction or host dialogue, all interaction metrics remain at baseline.4:08–7:34 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Public Cloud Performance and the Unicorn Backlog Byron continues the solo presentation, detailing public cloud index gains, low tech IPO volumes, and the backlog of private cloud unicorns. There is no host involvement or disagreement during this conference stage presentation.7:35–15:10 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Cloud Valuation Frameworks and the BVP ARG Metric Christina Shen takes over the stage presentation to introduce Bessemer's growth benchmarks and the BVP ARG metric for cloud valuation. As a solo presentation slide deck, there is no host participation or pushback.15:10–20:39 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Reviewing Bessemer's Historical Cloud Investment Roadmaps Christina reviews Bessemer's historical 2013 roadmaps and portfolio success before handing the presentation back to Byron, who introduces Function as a Service. The format remains a pure conference presentation without host interaction.20:39–25:24 · Jason pushing back 0/10 2018 Predictions: API Economy, Blockchain, and Payments as a Service Byron delivers 2018 predictions covering the expansion of the API economy, enterprise blockchain use cases, and software embedding payments as a service. No host is present to contest or question the analysis.25:24–30:51 · Jason pushing back 0/10 2018 Predictions: Screenless Software, Culture, and Global Cloud Expansion Byron concludes the keynote by outlining trends toward screenless enterprise software, culture and corporate values, and the international decentralization of cloud entrepreneurship. The session finishes as a uninterrupted keynote.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 1:05 Dismissing Bitcoin speculation to focus on distributed ledger

In a non-combative presentation, Byron makes his sharpest contrast by dismissing the speculative retail hype around crypto prices to refocus attention on fundamental distributed ledger enterprise value.

Hardest push from Jason ▶ 0:00 No host pushback present

The session is delivered entirely as an onstage keynote presentation by Bessemer partners with no host intervention or pushback throughout the recording.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 10:25 Explaining the growth-adjusted ARG multiple

Christina educates the conference audience on why high ARR multiples in private markets are actually rational when adjusted for accelerating growth using the BVP ARG metric.

Jason holds their own ▶ 0:00 No host hit-back present

Because this recording consists entirely of a prepared slide presentation with no active host dialogue, there are no instances of host pushback or expertise demonstration.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJason as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJason pushing backWhy
2017 Macro Trends: Crypto, AI, and Tech Dominance 0000 This is a monologue presentation keynote delivered to a live conference audience with no host presence or interruption. Byron Deeter outlines high-level macro technology trends from 2017 including crypto, AI bots, and tech dominance in market capitalization. With zero conversational friction or host dialogue, all interaction metrics remain at baseline.
Public Cloud Performance and the Unicorn Backlog 0000 Byron continues the solo presentation, detailing public cloud index gains, low tech IPO volumes, and the backlog of private cloud unicorns. There is no host involvement or disagreement during this conference stage presentation.
Cloud Valuation Frameworks and the BVP ARG Metric 0000 Christina Shen takes over the stage presentation to introduce Bessemer's growth benchmarks and the BVP ARG metric for cloud valuation. As a solo presentation slide deck, there is no host participation or pushback.
Reviewing Bessemer's Historical Cloud Investment Roadmaps 0000 Christina reviews Bessemer's historical 2013 roadmaps and portfolio success before handing the presentation back to Byron, who introduces Function as a Service. The format remains a pure conference presentation without host interaction.
2018 Predictions: API Economy, Blockchain, and Payments as a Service 0000 Byron delivers 2018 predictions covering the expansion of the API economy, enterprise blockchain use cases, and software embedding payments as a service. No host is present to contest or question the analysis.
2018 Predictions: Screenless Software, Culture, and Global Cloud Expansion 0000 Byron concludes the keynote by outlining trends toward screenless enterprise software, culture and corporate values, and the international decentralization of cloud entrepreneurship. The session finishes as a uninterrupted keynote.

Statements from this episode (16)

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Deeter: Blockchain will have a lasting impact on tech
“What we can all agree is that the distributed ledger and this notion of blockchain is gonna have lasting impact to tech, and we'll talk about that later.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 1:27
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Deeter: Early AI and machine learning are having a lasting impact on software
“The impact of the early instantiation of machine learning in AI is having lasting impact in the software, and that will be impactful as we talk about the macro trends.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 1:53
Assertion Supported
Deeter: The five most valuable companies in 2017 were venture-backed tech
“Then for the first time consistently in 2017, all five of the most highly valued companies on the planet were venture backed technology businesses.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 2:48
Assertion Supported
Deeter: Bessemer Cloud Index gained over 450% in seven years
“The Bessemer Cloud Index, which tracks the 54 pure play public cloud companies, is up over 450% in the seven years we've been tracking this.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 4:34
Assertion Partly supported
Deeter: Private venture unicorns grew from zero to over 200 in a decade
“And if you think a decade ago, there were zero private venture-backed unicorns, these billion-dollar companies. Now, today, there are over 200.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 5:54
Assertion Supported
Deeter: Cloud 100 list features 37 private cloud companies valued over $1B
“The mean is over a billion, and there are 37 companies over a billion dollars market cap on that list today.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 6:51
Assertion Supported
Shen: Cloud software investment quadrupled in six years, taking 50% of VC
“If you look at what's been invested in cloud software, it has literally quadrupled in a six year time period and represents about 50% of total venture capital funding”
Christina Shen May 3, 2018 ▶ 9:03
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shen: Private cloud multiples expanded from 1.5x to 2.5x of public multiples
“To be exact, in 2011, private multiples were about 1.5 X out of public companies. But today, they're about 2.5 X.”
Christina Shen May 3, 2018 ▶ 11:25
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shen: Early-stage private SaaS growth accelerated from 170% to 250% by 2018
“In 2011, they were growing on average of a 170%. These are companies that are between one and twenty million ARR. Today, they're growing about 250%.”
Christina Shen May 3, 2018 ▶ 11:49
Opinion
Shen: Growth-adjusted private SaaS valuations remain reasonable relative to public markets
“That means in the last two years, despite seemingly high private company valuations it actually shows on a growth-adjusted basis, private valuations have actually been fairly reasonable.”
Christina Shen May 3, 2018 ▶ 13:46
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Deeter: Serverless computing and FaaS will rival SaaS, PaaS, and IaaS
“We're adding a fourth bucket today, which is for the first time, and I suspect many of you in the room, ah, can't even guess what the acronym stands for. Ah, the hardcore technical folks I bet do immediately. It's Function as a Service. There's the emergence o…”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 17:07
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Deeter: New infrastructure businesses will center on container management at scale
“And so, as you think about where we go from here, specifically around the serverless world, the future is about managing these containers at scale. And at first, what was about the fundamentals of what is a container and how can these work together has very mu…”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 19:54
Prediction Held up
Deeter: Stripe and Adyen will be multi-billion dollar successors
“Companies like Stripe and Adyen will certainly be multi-billion dollar successors.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 21:12
Assertion Supported
Deeter: Over half of Shopify's revenue comes from payments
“Now, for those of you that look at the public filings of Shopify another proud Bessemer alumni portfolio company, they're trading at ten billion dollars plus. And over half of their revenue today is from this emerging category of payments.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 23:55
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Deeter: SaaS applications will embed payments to expand TAM
“And so we absolutely believe That applications more and more are going to layer in payment capabilities and find that as an upsell driver that's a hidden gem and massively expand your market size as a result.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 25:10
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Deeter: Screenless Interfaces Will Increasingly Drive Enterprise SaaS Success
“In enterprise applications, we absolutely believe that screen lists will increasingly lead to success.”
Byron Deeter May 3, 2018 ▶ 27:27
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