Oct 30, 2019 · 32m · saastr

State of the Cloud 2019: Europa Edition | SaaStr Software Community

Alex Ferrara · 29m spoken
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At SaaStr Europa 2019, Alex Ferrara of Bessemer Venture Partners analyzes the explosive growth of the global cloud economy, introduces the GRIT benchmarking framework for scaling resilient software businesses, and outlines key investment themes driving the next trillion dollars in cloud innovation.

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05100:0010:0020:0030:001:46–6:35 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Decade in Review: From Zero to Sixty-One Cloud Unicorns Solo keynote presentation by Alex Ferrara tracing the ten-year evolution from zero cloud unicorns to sixty-one. No host participation occurs.6:37–9:29 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Recent Market Dynamics: Mega M&A Deals, IPOs, and Cloud 100 Ferrara details mega M&A transactions, recent public market IPOs, and Cloud 100 private market metrics. The host does not speak.9:32–11:43 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Managing Economic Volatility and Introducing the Resilient Framework Ferrara addresses public market volatility and introduces Bessemer's framework for company resilience. There is no host involvement.11:44–15:37 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Growth Benchmarking: Milestones from One Million to One Hundred Million ARR Ferrara breaks down ARR scaling milestones from $1M to $10M and $100M across median, top quartile, and bottom quartile performers. Pure monologue.15:38–21:02 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Customer Retention as a Multi-Billion Dollar Value Driver Ferrara models the compounding valuation impact of net retention across market segments. No host participation.21:05–25:43 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Runway Planning and Capital Efficiency Benchmarks for Early-Stage SaaS Ferrara outlines runway management and defines Bessemer's early-stage efficiency metric of net new ARR divided by net cash burn. Monologue format.25:43–27:26 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 The GRIT Framework: Quantifying SaaS Company Resilience Ferrara concludes the GRIT framework explanation and shares future SaaS predictions. No host participation occurs.1:46–6:35 · Guest teaching 0/10 Decade in Review: From Zero to Sixty-One Cloud Unicorns Solo keynote presentation by Alex Ferrara tracing the ten-year evolution from zero cloud unicorns to sixty-one. No host participation occurs.6:37–9:29 · Guest teaching 0/10 Recent Market Dynamics: Mega M&A Deals, IPOs, and Cloud 100 Ferrara details mega M&A transactions, recent public market IPOs, and Cloud 100 private market metrics. The host does not speak.9:32–11:43 · Guest teaching 0/10 Managing Economic Volatility and Introducing the Resilient Framework Ferrara addresses public market volatility and introduces Bessemer's framework for company resilience. There is no host involvement.11:44–15:37 · Guest teaching 0/10 Growth Benchmarking: Milestones from One Million to One Hundred Million ARR Ferrara breaks down ARR scaling milestones from $1M to $10M and $100M across median, top quartile, and bottom quartile performers. Pure monologue.15:38–21:02 · Guest teaching 0/10 Customer Retention as a Multi-Billion Dollar Value Driver Ferrara models the compounding valuation impact of net retention across market segments. No host participation.21:05–25:43 · Guest teaching 0/10 Runway Planning and Capital Efficiency Benchmarks for Early-Stage SaaS Ferrara outlines runway management and defines Bessemer's early-stage efficiency metric of net new ARR divided by net cash burn. Monologue format.25:43–27:26 · Guest teaching 0/10 The GRIT Framework: Quantifying SaaS Company Resilience Ferrara concludes the GRIT framework explanation and shares future SaaS predictions. No host participation occurs.1:46–6:35 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Decade in Review: From Zero to Sixty-One Cloud Unicorns Solo keynote presentation by Alex Ferrara tracing the ten-year evolution from zero cloud unicorns to sixty-one. No host participation occurs.6:37–9:29 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Recent Market Dynamics: Mega M&A Deals, IPOs, and Cloud 100 Ferrara details mega M&A transactions, recent public market IPOs, and Cloud 100 private market metrics. The host does not speak.9:32–11:43 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Managing Economic Volatility and Introducing the Resilient Framework Ferrara addresses public market volatility and introduces Bessemer's framework for company resilience. There is no host involvement.11:44–15:37 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Growth Benchmarking: Milestones from One Million to One Hundred Million ARR Ferrara breaks down ARR scaling milestones from $1M to $10M and $100M across median, top quartile, and bottom quartile performers. Pure monologue.15:38–21:02 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Customer Retention as a Multi-Billion Dollar Value Driver Ferrara models the compounding valuation impact of net retention across market segments. No host participation.21:05–25:43 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Runway Planning and Capital Efficiency Benchmarks for Early-Stage SaaS Ferrara outlines runway management and defines Bessemer's early-stage efficiency metric of net new ARR divided by net cash burn. Monologue format.25:43–27:26 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The GRIT Framework: Quantifying SaaS Company Resilience Ferrara concludes the GRIT framework explanation and shares future SaaS predictions. No host participation occurs.1:46–6:35 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Decade in Review: From Zero to Sixty-One Cloud Unicorns Solo keynote presentation by Alex Ferrara tracing the ten-year evolution from zero cloud unicorns to sixty-one. No host participation occurs.6:37–9:29 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Recent Market Dynamics: Mega M&A Deals, IPOs, and Cloud 100 Ferrara details mega M&A transactions, recent public market IPOs, and Cloud 100 private market metrics. The host does not speak.9:32–11:43 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Managing Economic Volatility and Introducing the Resilient Framework Ferrara addresses public market volatility and introduces Bessemer's framework for company resilience. There is no host involvement.11:44–15:37 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Growth Benchmarking: Milestones from One Million to One Hundred Million ARR Ferrara breaks down ARR scaling milestones from $1M to $10M and $100M across median, top quartile, and bottom quartile performers. Pure monologue.15:38–21:02 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Customer Retention as a Multi-Billion Dollar Value Driver Ferrara models the compounding valuation impact of net retention across market segments. No host participation.21:05–25:43 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Runway Planning and Capital Efficiency Benchmarks for Early-Stage SaaS Ferrara outlines runway management and defines Bessemer's early-stage efficiency metric of net new ARR divided by net cash burn. Monologue format.25:43–27:26 · Jason pushing back 0/10 The GRIT Framework: Quantifying SaaS Company Resilience Ferrara concludes the GRIT framework explanation and shares future SaaS predictions. No host participation occurs.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 3:45 Dismissing Wall Street skepticism of AWS

Ferrara highlights how Wall Street analysts incorrectly pushed back against Jeff Bezos launching AWS, proving the transformative power of cloud business models.

Hardest push from Jason ▶ 0:04 Conference stage introduction

This is a solo keynote with zero host dialogue or pushback; the announcer simply introduces the speaker.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 17:15 Compounding value of customer retention

Ferrara presents concrete mathematical modeling demonstrating that a 15% improvement in net retention generates $1.5 billion in exit enterprise value.

Jason holds their own ▶ 0:04 Announcer opening welcome

No host participation exists during the presentation to demonstrate counter-expertise or pushback.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJason as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJason pushing backWhy
Decade in Review: From Zero to Sixty-One Cloud Unicorns 0000 Solo keynote presentation by Alex Ferrara tracing the ten-year evolution from zero cloud unicorns to sixty-one. No host participation occurs.
Recent Market Dynamics: Mega M&A Deals, IPOs, and Cloud 100 0000 Ferrara details mega M&A transactions, recent public market IPOs, and Cloud 100 private market metrics. The host does not speak.
Managing Economic Volatility and Introducing the Resilient Framework 0000 Ferrara addresses public market volatility and introduces Bessemer's framework for company resilience. There is no host involvement.
Growth Benchmarking: Milestones from One Million to One Hundred Million ARR 0000 Ferrara breaks down ARR scaling milestones from $1M to $10M and $100M across median, top quartile, and bottom quartile performers. Pure monologue.
Customer Retention as a Multi-Billion Dollar Value Driver 0000 Ferrara models the compounding valuation impact of net retention across market segments. No host participation.
Runway Planning and Capital Efficiency Benchmarks for Early-Stage SaaS 0000 Ferrara outlines runway management and defines Bessemer's early-stage efficiency metric of net new ARR divided by net cash burn. Monologue format.
The GRIT Framework: Quantifying SaaS Company Resilience 0000 Ferrara concludes the GRIT framework explanation and shares future SaaS predictions. No host participation occurs.

Statements from this episode (16)

Assertion Supported
Ferrara: There are currently 61 private cloud unicorns globally
“So the answer is, there are actually 61, ah, cloud unicorns. We'll flash them up. Many of these names that you know. Ah, and this is actually the largest we've seen in history.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 3:17
Assertion Contradicted
Ferrara: Amazon 2019 earnings transcript mentioned AWS 78 times and retail twice
“So this analyst, Artie Levy from CNBC, took the Amazon earnings transcript from earlier this year, and he actually counted the words, counted the number of times that words like AWS or retail or Alexa were mentioned. Retail was mentioned twice. That's it. And …”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 4:44
Opinion
Ferrara: AWS is arguably Amazon's biggest value driver toward $1T market cap
“And so, you know, I think we've seen over the last decade that AWS now is arguably the biggest driver of value for Amazon as they are approaching this trillion dollar market cap, ah, market cap milestone.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 5:20
Prediction Held up
Ferrara: 2019 cloud IPO market cap will meet or beat 2018's $44B
“And so, we're expecting that 2019 will likely either exceed, or sorry, rather meet or exceed Ah, the same metrics from, ah, the same stat from 2014, 2018, rather.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 8:24
Assertion Partly supported
Ferrara: Forbes Cloud 100 private companies command $200B in aggregate value
“Ah, and these clump companies, as of, ah, as of recently, ah, command about two hundred billion dollars of value.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 8:59
Assertion Supported
Ferrara: Private cloud unicorns outnumber public ones for first time
“One, it's notable that just in the last year, for the first time, the number of these private cloud unicorns exceeds that of the public ones”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 9:08
Assertion Supported
Ferrara: Building a cloud unicorn often takes more than a decade
“The time that companies are staying private has been extending. It's often much more than a decade to build one of these cloud unicorns.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 10:07
Assertion Supported
Ferrara: Slack Scaled From $1M to $100M ARR in Three Years
“If you look at Slack, and I recognize they're not a public company, but we've included them because they're imminently, ah, they will be, ah, they got to a hundred million of ARR from one million in three years, which is just incredible. I think that's probabl…”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 12:20
Assertion Supported
Ferrara: Median Cloud Company Takes 7.3 Years From $1M to $100M ARR
“And what we see is the median company, the median, ah, successful cloud company is getting to this hundred million mark in about 7.3 years. The best companies or the top quartile companies are doing it in a little over five years, and the bottom quartile, it's…”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 13:02
Insight
Ferrara: Mid-market SaaS yields 80-90% gross and 90-120% net revenue retention
“If you're selling into the mid-market with ACVs of something like 12 K or up to 50 K per year, you can expect 80 to 90% gross revenue retention, and net revenue retention, we typically see something in the 90 to, in best cases, a 120%.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 16:05
Insight
Ferrara: Net new ARR divided by burn beats Rule of 40 under $30M ARR
“We've found that it's not really as relevant for earlier stage companies. So, companies below thirty million of ARR We tend to find that a much better way of measuring efficiency is through looking at this, ah, score of net new ARR divided by cash burn.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 24:07
Insight
Ferrara: A 0.5x to 1.5x net ARR to burn ratio is very good
“Again, having gone through a large data set, we typically saw that something between 0.5 X and one and a half X represented a very good score, and some of the best companies, as we'll see, have scores above that.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 25:07
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Ferrara: Shopify grew ARR from $12M to $24M on just $2M burn in 2011
“One example I'll give of one of the best companies out there on this metric was Shopify, which is a company that in around 2011 had about twelve million of ARR. Over the next 12 months, they added Another twelve million of ARR, and it cost them two million to …”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 25:18
Assertion Supported
Ferrara: Twilio achieved an 8.1 GRIT score driven by 160% net retention
“They had a 160% annual net retention. They were growing at around 300% per year when they were at this scale. And so with 200, ah, two years of cash in the bank and a 1.5 X efficiency score, their grit score was 8.1, which was, ah, which was very strong.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 26:32
Assertion Supported
Ferrara: ServiceTitan scored an 8.3 GRIT rating driven by 3.4x efficiency
“So Service Titan, ah, over indexed on efficiency with a 3.4 X score. They underindexed a little bit on net retention at around 90%. So with 200% growth, and again, two years of cash in the bank, they had a very similar grit score of about 8.3.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 26:55
Insight
Ferrara: Data privacy problems stem from poor SaaS engineering, not cybersecurity
“I don't think this is a problem that's gonna be solved by cyber security tools. Ah, I think that this is a problem that results from poor privacy engineering on the part of SaaS application companies over the last decade.”
Alex Ferrara Oct 30, 2019 ▶ 30:09
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