Apr 18, 2021 · 18m · saastr

How to Build a Unicorn in 8 Simple Charts with SafeGraph

Auren Hoffman · 16m spoken
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SafeGraph CEO Auren Hoffman presents eight intuitive, contrarian napkin graphs that dismantle conventional startup wisdom across opportunity selection, talent delegation, fundraising dynamics, and execution velocity.

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Jason as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 0.0 Guest disagreement 4.6 Jason pushing back 0.0
05100:0010:000:56–3:36 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Chart 1: Avoiding Good Opportunities Auren presents a solo presentation arguing contrarily that founders and individuals should aggressively avoid good opportunities to wait exclusively for great ones. Because this is a monologue presentation without host involvement, host scores and schooling scores are zero.3:36–7:24 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Chart 2: Delegating Strengths and Managing Vendors Auren forcefully attacks conventional management advice regarding delegating weaknesses, memorably advising listeners to take standard advice outside and kill it. He advocates instead for delegating only tasks one already excels at.7:25–10:43 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Chart 3: The Flaw of Midterm Optimization Auren criticizes people who optimize for the midterm and pursue conventional credentialism such as law school or safe majors. As a solo presentation, there is no host pushback or interactive schooling.10:45–14:28 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Chart 5: Deconstructing Venture Capital Rejection Reasons Auren bluntly asserts that VCs routinely lie when rejecting pitches by claiming TAM is insufficient rather than admitting they dislike the team. He also outlines contrarian tactical advice on negotiating legal fees.14:28–18:12 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Chart 7: Prioritizing Rapid Action Over Excessive Planning Auren emphasizes velocity over planning and concludes with provocative advice telling founders to ignore business counsel from older individuals and parents. Host interaction remains absent until the brief outro.0:56–3:36 · Guest teaching 0/10 Chart 1: Avoiding Good Opportunities Auren presents a solo presentation arguing contrarily that founders and individuals should aggressively avoid good opportunities to wait exclusively for great ones. Because this is a monologue presentation without host involvement, host scores and schooling scores are zero.3:36–7:24 · Guest teaching 0/10 Chart 2: Delegating Strengths and Managing Vendors Auren forcefully attacks conventional management advice regarding delegating weaknesses, memorably advising listeners to take standard advice outside and kill it. He advocates instead for delegating only tasks one already excels at.7:25–10:43 · Guest teaching 0/10 Chart 3: The Flaw of Midterm Optimization Auren criticizes people who optimize for the midterm and pursue conventional credentialism such as law school or safe majors. As a solo presentation, there is no host pushback or interactive schooling.10:45–14:28 · Guest teaching 0/10 Chart 5: Deconstructing Venture Capital Rejection Reasons Auren bluntly asserts that VCs routinely lie when rejecting pitches by claiming TAM is insufficient rather than admitting they dislike the team. He also outlines contrarian tactical advice on negotiating legal fees.14:28–18:12 · Guest teaching 0/10 Chart 7: Prioritizing Rapid Action Over Excessive Planning Auren emphasizes velocity over planning and concludes with provocative advice telling founders to ignore business counsel from older individuals and parents. Host interaction remains absent until the brief outro.0:56–3:36 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Chart 1: Avoiding Good Opportunities Auren presents a solo presentation arguing contrarily that founders and individuals should aggressively avoid good opportunities to wait exclusively for great ones. Because this is a monologue presentation without host involvement, host scores and schooling scores are zero.3:36–7:24 · Guest disagreement 6/10 Chart 2: Delegating Strengths and Managing Vendors Auren forcefully attacks conventional management advice regarding delegating weaknesses, memorably advising listeners to take standard advice outside and kill it. He advocates instead for delegating only tasks one already excels at.7:25–10:43 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Chart 3: The Flaw of Midterm Optimization Auren criticizes people who optimize for the midterm and pursue conventional credentialism such as law school or safe majors. As a solo presentation, there is no host pushback or interactive schooling.10:45–14:28 · Guest disagreement 5/10 Chart 5: Deconstructing Venture Capital Rejection Reasons Auren bluntly asserts that VCs routinely lie when rejecting pitches by claiming TAM is insufficient rather than admitting they dislike the team. He also outlines contrarian tactical advice on negotiating legal fees.14:28–18:12 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Chart 7: Prioritizing Rapid Action Over Excessive Planning Auren emphasizes velocity over planning and concludes with provocative advice telling founders to ignore business counsel from older individuals and parents. Host interaction remains absent until the brief outro.0:56–3:36 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Chart 1: Avoiding Good Opportunities Auren presents a solo presentation arguing contrarily that founders and individuals should aggressively avoid good opportunities to wait exclusively for great ones. Because this is a monologue presentation without host involvement, host scores and schooling scores are zero.3:36–7:24 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Chart 2: Delegating Strengths and Managing Vendors Auren forcefully attacks conventional management advice regarding delegating weaknesses, memorably advising listeners to take standard advice outside and kill it. He advocates instead for delegating only tasks one already excels at.7:25–10:43 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Chart 3: The Flaw of Midterm Optimization Auren criticizes people who optimize for the midterm and pursue conventional credentialism such as law school or safe majors. As a solo presentation, there is no host pushback or interactive schooling.10:45–14:28 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Chart 5: Deconstructing Venture Capital Rejection Reasons Auren bluntly asserts that VCs routinely lie when rejecting pitches by claiming TAM is insufficient rather than admitting they dislike the team. He also outlines contrarian tactical advice on negotiating legal fees.14:28–18:12 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Chart 7: Prioritizing Rapid Action Over Excessive Planning Auren emphasizes velocity over planning and concludes with provocative advice telling founders to ignore business counsel from older individuals and parents. Host interaction remains absent until the brief outro.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 3:44 Take conventional delegation advice and kill it

Auren rejects standard board advice about hiring for your weaknesses with extreme rhetorical flair, telling founders to bury, stab, and kill conventional wisdom.

Hardest push from Jason ▶ 0:00 No pushback (Monologue presentation)

The episode is an uninterrupted solo presentation, so there is zero host pushback or disagreement.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 0:00 No schooling dynamic (Solo talk)

Without a dialogue or Q&A interaction between host and guest, no direct host schooling occurred.

Jason holds their own ▶ 0:00 No host counter-expertise (Solo talk)

There is no host participation during the talk to counter or match the guest's expertise.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJason as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJason pushing backWhy
Chart 1: Avoiding Good Opportunities 0040 Auren presents a solo presentation arguing contrarily that founders and individuals should aggressively avoid good opportunities to wait exclusively for great ones. Because this is a monologue presentation without host involvement, host scores and schooling scores are zero.
Chart 2: Delegating Strengths and Managing Vendors 0060 Auren forcefully attacks conventional management advice regarding delegating weaknesses, memorably advising listeners to take standard advice outside and kill it. He advocates instead for delegating only tasks one already excels at.
Chart 3: The Flaw of Midterm Optimization 0040 Auren criticizes people who optimize for the midterm and pursue conventional credentialism such as law school or safe majors. As a solo presentation, there is no host pushback or interactive schooling.
Chart 5: Deconstructing Venture Capital Rejection Reasons 0050 Auren bluntly asserts that VCs routinely lie when rejecting pitches by claiming TAM is insufficient rather than admitting they dislike the team. He also outlines contrarian tactical advice on negotiating legal fees.
Chart 7: Prioritizing Rapid Action Over Excessive Planning 0040 Auren emphasizes velocity over planning and concludes with provocative advice telling founders to ignore business counsel from older individuals and parents. Host interaction remains absent until the brief outro.

Statements from this episode (16)

Insight
Hoffman: Never take advice from someone over a decade older
“This advice comes with a warning, which is never take advice from somebody who's more than 10 years older than you, and that's probably me.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 0:45
Insight
Hoffman: All great opportunities have big, obvious downsides
“Well, my simple heuristic Is that if the opportunity has very few downsides, it's almost certainly not a great opportunity. All great opportunities have very big and very obvious downsides.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 2:38
Insight
Hoffman: 10x hires almost certainly have glaring faults
“If you want to hire a 10 Xer, that person will almost certainly have glaring faults. Anyone that you could hire without glaring faults will be at best good. They will not be great.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 3:18
Insight
Hoffman: Leaders should delegate functions they are good at, not weak at
“Instead, delegate things that you're good at. This sounds really strange, so let me explain. The things that are the easiest to delegate are the things that you're already good at. You know how to do these things really well. You might already be an expert in …”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 4:10
Insight
Hoffman: Companies rarely excel at areas outside their founders' core traits
“They rarely get great at the things that are not the traits of their founders.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 4:57
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hoffman: Managing vendors is the top skill for the next 20 years
“The number one skill to have over the next 20 years is the ability to select and manage vendors.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 7:09
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hoffman: Almost every company today has more vendors than employees
“Almost every company today has more vendors than employees.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 7:16
Insight
Hoffman: Most smart people mistakenly optimize for the midterm
“Many, most smart people optimized for the midterm. They delay gratification in the short term. They're experts at passing the marshmallow test, but while they think they're optimizing for the longterm, they're actually usually optimizing for the midterm.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 7:33
Insight
Hoffman: Seeking career optionality is a mistake
“Never do things to gain optionality. Optionality is bad. You need to really have a purpose-driven life.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 8:22
Insight
Hoffman: The smartest people think 10 days and 30 years out
“Smart people are always thinking 10 years out. The smartest people are always thinking 10 days out and 30 years out.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 9:01
Insight
Hoffman: The top reason VCs reject early-stage startups is disliking the team
“And the number one reason why a VC will pass on your business is that they don't like your team. This is especially true for seed and series A deals.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 11:21
Insight
Hoffman: VCs will fund small TAM businesses if the team can expand adjacently
“VCs will happily invest in businesses with small TAMs if they think the team is good enough to move to an adjacent TAM once they're no longer growing at a hundred percent year over year.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 11:46
Insight
Hoffman: Investor legal fee caps dictate how fast a term sheet closes
“The most non-obvious clause to negotiate is the amount that you're supposed to reimburse the investor's legal counsel. You're actually doing your investors a favor by negotiating this. This is an actual win-win to negotiate. The time it takes you to go from te…”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 12:42
Insight
Hoffman: Large companies can only execute one or two things yearly
“Planning is really important at larger companies because larger companies can really only effectively do one or two new things per year.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 14:45
Insight
Hoffman: 10x performers take more management time than average employees
“The better the person, the less time it takes to manage them. That's the obvious thing, but that's only up to a point. The true 10 Xers actually take more time to manage than the average performers.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 15:39
Insight
Hoffman: Most VC rejection reasons, especially TAM concerns, are lies
“The reason that most VCs give you a no is lies, and especially the reason of total addressable market in your TAM.”
Auren Hoffman Apr 18, 2021 ▶ 17:04
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