“What we saw Was the average overdraft borrowing was only about 70 dollars, and people were overdrafting twice, so paying about 68, 69 dollars in fees for a matter of four days of borrowing.”
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Chase, Wells Fargo, and Bank of America each made $2B in overdraft
“Chase, Wells Fargo, and Bank of America at that point in time, again, going back to seven years, were each making two billion annually. That's so give or take six billion, and almost all of that goes to their nibbets. It's almost all Pre-tax profit.”
Zuben MatthewsJul 14, 2025▶ 11:03How he grew to $100M ARR—then exited for $460M. | Zuben Matthews, Founder of Brigit · PMF Show
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US banks generated $30B annually in overdraft fees around 2018
“The reality is when we started our company, banks, We're making about thirty billion dollars in overdraw fees. Thirty billion dollars.”
Zuben MatthewsJul 14, 2025▶ 10:47How he grew to $100M ARR—then exited for $460M. | Zuben Matthews, Founder of Brigit · PMF Show
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Paycheck-to-paycheck Americans pay up to 80% of bank overdraft fees
“And then you start to see who's paying 80% or 75% of those fees, who's paying Is it people who've got 10,000 dollars in their bank account who just made a mistake and didn't transfer money from one place to the other? It's not. It's the hundred plus million Am…”
Zuben MatthewsJul 14, 2025▶ 11:54How he grew to $100M ARR—then exited for $460M. | Zuben Matthews, Founder of Brigit · PMF Show
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Bank cash flow data outperforms FICO for underwriting short-term mismatches
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Zuben MatthewsJul 14, 2025▶ 5:23How he grew to $100M ARR—then exited for $460M. | Zuben Matthews, Founder of Brigit · PMF Show
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Matthews argues bank overdraft fees are more expensive than payday loans
“I would argue overdrafts are more expensive, but payday lenders tend to have a different way of looking at the world as well.”
Zuben MatthewsJul 14, 2025▶ 7:26How he grew to $100M ARR—then exited for $460M. | Zuben Matthews, Founder of Brigit · PMF Show
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In-house cash-flow underwriting restricts Brigit's fraud to under 20 basis points
“The underwriting and the fraud tools that we, we've built all in-house, combined with the data that we use, again, only cash flow, help us restrict fraud to well under, the way we would define it, under, it was 20 bips of all our losses.”
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