Neil Patel (co-founder of NP Digital) discusses his contrarian business strategy of offering free software as a lead generation mechanism instead of building traditional SaaS businesses.
“I think it's easier to build an average product, give it away for free, collect a lot of leads and sell them into something else where people in that space also pay for. And then now you got a cheaper flywheel than spending money on Google ads or trying to do SEO or social media marketing or anything like that.”
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