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Michael: Boston Dynamics made less AI progress than Tesla Optimus
“Which is why Boston Dynamics didn't make as much progress as Optimist did in the AI. You know, the things that started later on robotics just worked better because they were more AI infused.”
Younis: Tesla has solved autonomous business model, but Waymo has not
“The Waymo stuff is super impressive, but it is worth putting an asterisk. The business model hasn't been figured out yet. The Tesla business model has been figured out.”
Younis: Chinese Automakers Outperform Tesla on Autonomy and Features
“The autonomy stuff, you know, we go to China regularly and we test drive these vehicles. Super impressive. And better than Tesla to be like very, very clear.”
Waymo's autonomous driving technology is fundamentally centered on AI, not hardware
“It's all about AI. Full stop. Like we talked about, you know, a few big breakthroughs that allowed us to get to where we are today. You know, content, transformers, big Ness now, you know, most recently kind of combining the Waymo AI with the congenital knowle…”
Karpathy: Tesla is ahead of Waymo because software is easier than hardware
“I think, personally, Tesla is ahead of Waymo, and I know it doesn't look like that, but I'm still very bullish on Tesla and its self-driving program. I think that Tesla has a software problem, and I think Waymo has a hardware problem, is the way I put it, and …”
Huang: NVIDIA self-driving stack is rated number one in safety globally
“NVIDIA's self-driving car stack, by the way, number one rated safety in the world today.
Number one.
We just got that rating today.
last week, and number two is Tesla”
Younis: FSD-like systems will become standard vehicle features within five years
“So I think general availability on a FSD like system over the next five years is going to be common, just like navigation systems.”
Vogt: Elon Musk Nailed Tesla's AV Business Model Over Cash-Burning Rivals
“To be fair, Elon nailed it from a business model perspective. He's been making billions of dollars of profit while developing self-driving cars, whereas everyone else has been burning billions of dollars to try to get to basically the same point.”
Mansour: Probability of Elon Musk stepping down from Tesla is 15-20%
“I think Elon leaving Tesla is pretty underpriced. Or like stepping down and having someone run it. Like it says, you know, I mean, now that this year is close to done, but two percent chance, like one in 50, I don't know... I think the odds are more closer to …”
Karpathy: Tesla is fundamentally a robotics-at-scale company, not a carmaker
“Basically everything transfers and I don't think people appreciate it. Cars are robots and Tesla, I don't think is a car company. I think this is misleading. This is a robotics company, robotics at scale company, because I would say at scale is also like a who…”
Karpathy: Tesla Autonomous Stack Will Be Pure End-to-End Neural Net in 10 Years
“And I do suspect that The end-to-end systems for Tesla in, like, say, 10 years, it is just a neural net. I mean, the videos stream into a neural net and commands come out.”
Tesla Uses LiDAR During Training for Its Vision-Only Autonomous Stack
“Tesla actually does use a lot of expensive sensors. They just do it at training time. So there are a bunch of cars that drive around with LIDARs. They do a bunch of stuff that like doesn't scale and they have extra sensors, et cetera, and they do mapping and a…”
Allaire: Circle is the most actively traded tokenized stock
“There are tokenized stocks that are out there, and the most active tokenized stock today is not Tesla. It's not the S&P index. It's actually Circle.”
Scaringe: Only Tesla and Rivian avoid domain-based vehicle architectures
“With the exception of Tesla and Rivian, every car on the road has what is called a domain-based architecture.”
Gil: Tesla and Chinese Companies Will Win the Robotics Race
“It feels to me like Optimus or some form of like Tesla robot will be one of the winners, most likely, right? High probability... The most likely global winners in robotics will be some subset of China plus Tesla plus something else, right?”
Vogt: Tesla may start AV rollout with 1:1 remote operator ratio
“Like, I think even, even someone like Tesla may start off with like a one-to-one ratio of remote operators to vehicles.”
Karpathy: Humanoid robots will scale internally first, then B2B, then consumer
“I think B to C should be the right Start point, because I don't think we can have a robot, like, crush grandma, is how I put it, sort of. I think it's like too much legal liability. It's just like, I don't think that's the right approach... So I think the best…”
Taylor: Nuclear Has Never Had a Ford or Tesla Mass-Manufacturing Moment
“Nuclear has never had its Ford moment or its Tesla moment, if you want to put it that way.”
Scaringe: Rivian's perception stack sits between Tesla and Waymo in sensor density
“We're going to go, you know, not as heavy as let's say a Waymo on perception, but heavier than let's say Tesla to build a really robust data platform on a vehicle by vehicle basis.”
Gil: Waymo and Tesla Autonomous Driving Will Dominate 2026
“I do think that on the topic of robots, the biggest trend perhaps, or one of the biggest trends of 20, 26, 100% will be that self-driving will really begin to matter. And that'll be both in terms of your own car. It'll be in terms of Waymo and Tesla cabs.”
Younis: Applied Intuition is likely largest employer of ex-Waymo staff
“I think we're probably Waymo's biggest employer outside of Waymo, and Cruise and Tesla, all, all of these organizations.”
Karpathy: Early Tesla Optimus ran car neural networks and vehicle computers
“In terms of the transfer from cars to humanoids, it was not, not that much work at all. And in fact, like the early versions of Optimus the robot it thought it was a car, like, because it had the exact same computer. It had the exact same cameras. It was reall…”