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Prince: Regulate pathogen printers, not open-source AI models

Matthew Prince · No Priors Ep. 126 | With Cloudfare CEO Matthew Prince · Aug 7, 2025 · at 26:51

Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince pushes back against regulatory efforts that restrict open-source AI over biosecurity concerns.

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“I'm actually quite skeptical of the, if we allow open source models, the world is going to end arguments. That seems histrionic to me. There are things we should worry about. Like it is, you know, I think some of the you know synthetic pathogens and other things that can be created, but It seems to me like the place to regulate that and control that is in the machine that can actually print the pathogens, not in the AI model that can come up with what it is.”

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