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Patrick Hsu

Co-Founder and Core Investigator, Arc Institute · 1 appearance on the record.

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Patrick Hsu is a co-founder and Core Investigator at the Arc Institute and an Assistant Professor of Pathology at Stanford University. He is known for early CRISPR-Cas9 genome editing technologies in human cells and developing generative biological AI foundation models to design genomes.

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2 predictions · 1 assertion · 2 insights · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertion are the 3 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 1 is resolved, and 2 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Patrick argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Hsu: Biological scaling laws hold across proteins, DNA, and inference compute
“We've, we're seeing evidence of scaling laws in biology across proteins, right? That's been shown in the protein language models across DNA, which is what we've shown in our EVO series of models from ARC. We're also seeing inference time scaling laws which in,…”
Patrick Hsu Feb 25, 2025 ▶ 22:27 No Priors Ep. 103 | With Vevo Therapeutics and the Arc Institute

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Everything Patrick Hsu said on No Priors that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hsu: High-throughput token generation will dominate biology over mechanistic research
“The vast majority of, you know, mechanistic data that's been generated to date is really made to ask very specific, very well scoped questions and just, you know, way more tokens per experiment is, you know, just, it's just going to be the way to do it.”
Patrick Hsu Feb 25, 2025 ▶ 20:51 No Priors Ep. 103 | With Vevo Therapeutics and the Arc Institute
Insight
Hsu: Scientific research and creativity fundamentally involve hallucination
“People criticize these models for hallucinating, but if you think about it, the process of scientific research just involves hallucination, right? That's what creativity is.”
Patrick Hsu Feb 25, 2025 ▶ 22:01 No Priors Ep. 103 | With Vevo Therapeutics and the Arc Institute
Assertion Supported
Hsu: Biological scaling laws hold across proteins, DNA, and inference compute
“We've, we're seeing evidence of scaling laws in biology across proteins, right? That's been shown in the protein language models across DNA, which is what we've shown in our EVO series of models from ARC. We're also seeing inference time scaling laws which in,…”
Patrick Hsu Feb 25, 2025 ▶ 22:27 No Priors Ep. 103 | With Vevo Therapeutics and the Arc Institute
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hsu: All dry lab workflows will be automated by AI agents
“I think it's very clear now that basically all dry lab workflows are going to get automated with agents or with co-pilots”
Patrick Hsu Feb 25, 2025 ▶ 28:52 No Priors Ep. 103 | With Vevo Therapeutics and the Arc Institute
Insight
Hsu: The optimal biotech model is between fully virtual and vertically integrated
“Previously the virtual biotech was a concept that was very much in fashion, right? Folks found out just In reality, when you try to do this, even though it looks really good on paper, it's incredibly slow, right? So then folks tried the other way, which is let…”
Patrick Hsu Feb 25, 2025 ▶ 47:25 No Priors Ep. 103 | With Vevo Therapeutics and the Arc Institute

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
No Priors Ep. 103 | With Vevo Therapeutics and the Arc Institute Feb 25, 2025 10m
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