Ivan Zhao

10 statements across 2 episodes · 7 bullish · 0 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Feb 15, 2024 by Ivan Zhao · said 4 times in 2 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Feb 15, 2024 bullish
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Zhao: Embeddings and RAG are eliminating the need for manual organization
“I think organization might be, we might be moving away from the organizational world. Why do you need to organize because you can retrieve? Why do you have index? Like index initially are file cabinets and little index are sitting on top of so you can find thi…”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 23:13 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zhao: 80% of Notion designers know how to code
“In notion with most of our designer can code. Majority of, 80% of the designer can code”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 33:11 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Zhao initially overlooked GPT-3 because it seemed limited to marketing copy
“I personally, I have to admit, I slept on it. On GPT-III, even saw GPT-III, it feels like, what is this thing useful for? It's like, yes, for marketing, for content writing, for creative first draft. Didn't really click for me.”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 13:06 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Zhao: Notion historically had almost no machine learning engineers
“We have somewhat a small team of search, but we don't have too many ML folks, almost nothing.”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 6:26 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024 positive
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Ivan Zhao: Modular software tools must be packaged as templates
“Our learning and pivot is instead of giving people those Software building tool, we have to package the software building blocks together as ready to use templates, as ready to use use cases that people can adopt really quickly.”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 10:09 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024 positive
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Zhao: Prompt engineering effectively makes anyone a real-time machine learning engineer
“Language prompt engineer language model sort of make everybody like a real-time machine learning engineer.”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 7:37 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024
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Zhao: AI applications must stay largely familiar to overcome user inertia
“You cannot make something too new. You have to be largely the same and change one thing and two things, right? Virtual ablo. The off-white guys, like, three percent difference. Just push the boundaries so people can accept it, but still also new, right? To me,…”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 17:19 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024 bullish
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Zhao: AI Language Models Are Driving the Next Software Bundling Wave
“Now the new technology happening is AI language model, and if you build more with it or just think more with it, language model wants information to be one place. Once the endpoints to be connected, so it's easier to, is it hard enough to like a conversion lan…”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 26:47 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Feb 15, 2024 positive
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Zhao: Hybrid designers and engineers make superior product trade-offs
“The moment you can, as a designer or as an engineer, you can code, you can design, you can make really interesting trade-offs, right? At the end of the technologies, at least in my opinion, is about trade-offs. What kind of trade-off you can make that unlock n…”
Ivan Zhao Feb 15, 2024 ▶ 33:18 No Priors Ep. 51 | With Notion CEO Ivan Zhao
Mar 12, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Simon Last: GPT-4 Proto-Interface Sparked Notion's AI Pivot
“It wasn't until I played with GPT-IV that it became really, really real. So, you know, we, when we got access to it was sort of like a proto-ChatGPT-like interface. And my co-founder Ivan and I both got access, and it was just immediately clear, like, I would …”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 1:00 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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