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Opinion
Sam Lessin: OpenAI 'ain't nowhere' because middle-tier AI players will lose
“It's going to be great to hold the stock at the top five biggest companies in the world, but like open AI ain't nowhere cause they're neither.”
Sam Lessin May 17, 2024 ▶ 27:04 #47: Algorithm-Proof Media and New Twists in the AI War · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI base models will be competed down to zero profit
“You're not going to make money on base models. Right. They're going to be competed to zero.”
Sam Lessin May 17, 2024 ▶ 21:03 #47: Algorithm-Proof Media and New Twists in the AI War · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: OpenAI investors have been lighting money on fire
“Or as I've said, for two years are lighting money on fire. Like, you know, the good news is they get paid on the fees. So as long as they make reasonable DPI somewhere, they'll be fine.”
Sam Lessin May 17, 2024 ▶ 9:30 #47: Algorithm-Proof Media and New Twists in the AI War · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: The foundational AI tool business will become an utter bloodbath
“So it's turtles all the way down, which is why, again, this industry will make a lot of money for the end users that are, like, getting value from these tools. But the actual tool business is going to be an utter bloodbath.”
Sam Lessin Apr 5, 2024 ▶ 45:03 #41: Is AI Killing Media? · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: OpenAI is probably not worth $100 billion
“I gotta tell you, Sam Altman, our business is not as good a business as the high-margin software business. Still a good business, but it's probably not worth a hundred billion dollars.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 5, 2024 ▶ 46:46 #41: Is AI Killing Media? · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI Base Models Will Either Be Worthless or Have Two to Three Winners
“There's no stable configuration for the base models where there's like a hundred of them. There's either going to be Zero that make any money. So they all are worthless, right? Cause it like, cause it is everywhere. And like, for what it's worth, that's been m…”
Sam Lessin Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 46:47 #37: TikTok's Latest Crisis, Elon's Emails, AI Monopolies · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: OpenAI Pulled a Skeezy Bait and Switch to Access Data
“The problem with this is that open AI convinced everyone because they were a quote unquote nonprofit to let them have a bunch of data that they could work with that they otherwise would never have had access to. And like, that is super skeezy. Right. And like …”
Sam Lessin Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 32:26 #37: TikTok's Latest Crisis, Elon's Emails, AI Monopolies · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: OpenAI's top strength is marketing, not artificial intelligence
“In credit to OpenAI, I think the thing that OpenAI is best in the world at right now is not AI, it's marketing.”
Sam Lessin Feb 23, 2024 ▶ 41:55 #35: 2024 IPO Dreams, Apple's Sports Game and Reddit's Biz Gamble · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: Asking for $7 trillion is the act of a religious leader
“When you're like, I want seven trillion dollars, right? Like, that is the statement of a religious leader, not a disciplined business person.”
Sam Lessin Feb 16, 2024 ▶ 56:25 #34: 7 Trillion Reasons Why · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin Predicts OpenAI's GPT Store Has No Chance of Platform Success
“The thing with the GPT's launch is the economics of it make absolutely no sense for a developer, which means that, like, ultimately there's no chance That this will be a successful platform.”
Sam Lessin Jan 19, 2024 ▶ 29:26 #30: The Great App Store Debate, Layoffs, and Playoffs... Oh My! · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: Altman is an AGI fundamentalist, not a business pragmatist
“Sam is being painted by the media as like, The business person versus the fundamentalist, but he's like as fundamental as it gets. And so like, to me, it's very hard to like, imagine that being a healthy, stable situation for the future.”
Sam Lessin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 27:22 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Morin defends Adam D'Angelo as highly rational and principled
“Adam is one of the highest integrity people that I've ever worked with. He's a very principled person and he you know, he's a very deliberate, very rational very serious actor. He's a very serious person, and so it does bother me a little bit that there's a lo…”
Dave Morin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 23:02 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: The entire current generation of AI models was trained illegally
“This entire generation of AI models, from my perspective, has basically all been illegally trained, right? It's like, there's all sorts of rumors that are flying on the tech community about how a lot of the kind of more image-based you know, large language, la…”
Sam Lessin Jun 16, 2023 ▶ 13:53 #2: Reddit and the death of the public internet; the end of the VC "epoch" · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
The narrative that AI will have a single uncatchable winner is false
“And tell the story there'll be one winner in AI and it will be us because we will compound to be so far ahead. We're uncatchable. That's clearly not true.”
Sam Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 30:21 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI is struggling to win enterprise clients away from Anthropic
“I keep hearing anecdotally that they're having trouble getting customers to switch from anthropic, even on a credible terms”
Jessica Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 26:09 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
OpenAI's capital-raising trajectory is the greatest fundraising story in world history
“It's the greatest fundraising story in the history of the world.”
Sam Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 30:02 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2027
OpenAI will become a publicly traded company by 2027
“They will be in the public markets by 27.”
Dave Morin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 28:07 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Deng: OpenAI executive churn is a feature of elite recruiting, not failure
“My take on this is it's actually a feature, not a bug. It's a feature of having insanely great talent. I think Sam is N of one at recruiting with really ambitious, talented people. And in a time when you can build anything, you should expect the churn.”
Peter Deng Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 42:32 Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
Wolfe: OpenAI has produced six spin-offs valued at tens of billions
“So far with OpenAI, valuation has gone from, like, you know, sub hundred million to trillion and plus, and you've had six diaspora companies that have all achieved, you know, tens of billions of dollars that have spun off of it.”
Josh Wolfe Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 45:38 Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Ex-Apple employees almost certainly took IP to OpenAI
“I think both are almost certainly true in that I am sure that it is true that people lifted a bunch of IP out of Apple on their way to OpenAI.”
Sam Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 33:22 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic and OpenAI IPO wealth will worsen brand backlash
“And you're gonna go into epic wealth generation Anthropic IPO, which isn't going to help the issue. And then same for open AI. So I don't know how you fix the image.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 41:19 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Dave Morin: Elite AI trainers must leave labs now before self-improvement hits
“The point is if these systems start improving themselves, like less than two years from now, the more cynical take is that if you're one of the 1000 people who have the most coveted of all skill sets, which is in training, pre-training, the sort of raising of …”
Dave Morin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 11:17 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: OpenAI acquired TBPN primarily to secure pro-AI talking heads
“Like this is open AI bought TBPN to try not to like recreate a media company because of with technology, but to basically like counteract just to have talking heads who were pro AI.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 40:35 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Lilian Weng Rejoined OpenAI After Leaving Thinking Machines Lab
“Well, guess I read in the information today that she started at OpenAI. Started back up at OpenAI.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 47:54 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic fear Chinese AI models undercutting them
“Anthropic and open AI are worried about the Chinese models undercutting them.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 12:40 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Tech is pursuing political regulatory capture over market capitalism
“This is what I don't like about our moment in history, is I don't think we're playing capitalism anymore. Like, I think we're playing some, like, political capture game that is way less interesting than capitalism, right?”
Sam Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 13:34 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI and Anthropic privately whisper near-term IPO timeframes
“They're gonna Set the benchmark, you know, they're going to set the roadmap, the playbook for anthropic and open AI, which are waiting in the wings and privately whispering timeframes that are quite sooner rather than later.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 20:15 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
OpenAI burned $4 billion on $5.7 billion revenue in Q1 2026
“We reported, by the way, last night that OpenAI burned four billion in the first quarter on revenue of 5.7.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 21:44 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2026
OpenAI and Anthropic Are Both Targeting an October IPO
“I think all of that is smoke and mirrors. And I think they're probably on a very conventional IPO timeframe, putting them at October ish alongside anthropic.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 15:56 Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Except for OpenAI and Anthropic, AI Companies Are Just Arms Dealers
“Well, I think that if you're anyone other than OpenAI and Anthropic, you are now an arms dealer in the AI race, right? You're either selling access or you're renting access to your giant H 100, H 200 clusters, right? Or you are giving people access to the mode…”
Dave Morin Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 5:44 Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
Insight
OpenAI's Consumer Push Killed Its Ability to Sell AI Fear
“The problem that OpenAI created for themselves is they went so broad and have so many partners that they lost their ability to be pure scare narrative. Because they have all these other, including consumer relationships where the fear thing is to their negativ…”
Sam Lessin Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 20:28 Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic will soon seek trillion-dollar valuations
“So you have these two AI companies that in really short order are going to be trying to convince public investors they're worth more than a trillion dollars, and they're going to have extraordinary revenue growth to back that up.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 23:11 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Microsoft rejected OpenAI compute demands, enabling rival cloud deals
“Microsoft had a right of first refusal. On all new compute from OpenAI. And Sam was saying, we need more. And Amy Hood, the CFO of Microsoft and Satir were like we're not going to give you more right now. And they underestimated their needs and let them pursue…”
Jessica Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 33:24 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Dave Morin: Microsoft's AI Strategy Uniquely Depends on a Rival Partner
“They're like the only one whose entire AI strategy depends on a partner that's actively becoming a creator.”
Dave Morin May 15, 2026 ▶ 38:01 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Greg Brockman's OpenAI stake is worth about $30 billion
“You know, it also came out that Brockman's stake is worth about thirty billion dollars, which is a point that he was just grilled on and asked, well, why haven't you donated it?”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 41:41 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
OpenAI court filing reveals Elon Musk approached Brockman about a settlement
“OpenAI also revealed in a filing that Musk had approached them about his, Brockman, about a potential settlement two days before.”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 44:08 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
Morin: ChatGPT has not topped 800M users and growth is declining
“ChatGPT itself still isn't beyond eight hundred million people, and it's declining in growth right now.”
Dave Morin May 8, 2026 ▶ 22:18 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin reports OpenAI recently missed internal revenue targets for ChatGPT
“They added the information that, which is pertinent, which would certainly be newsworthy on its own, that they have also missed revenue targets for ChatGPT recently, although we don't know by how much and we already knew that they missed the user targets, but …”
Jessica Lessin May 1, 2026 ▶ 13:25 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Greater than 50% chance Elon Musk and OpenAI settle or postpone trial
“I think there is a greater than not chance that they settle before then or that they postpone.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 24, 2026 ▶ 25:22 What Tim Cook’s “Executive Chairman” Move Really Means | Musk vs OpenAI, xAI and Cursor Rumors
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Public market investors are trimming Mag 7 for upcoming mega IPOs
“And I gotta say by and large, and it's anecdotal, but there are enough of them. They are very, very excited about these companies and they're selling down their mag seven positions a little bit to, or preparing to like go all in on these companies.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 14:48 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Opinion
Lessin: Altman and OpenAI board were very anxious over 'nothing burger' profile
“Sam was very, very anxious about the piece. The board was anxious about the piece. So, yeah, from my point of view, it was sort of a nothing burger, but I say that as probably the person in the media who follows this story the most closely, so.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 34:20 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Ronan Farrow probed serious allegations against Sam Altman that were unpublished
“Ronan Farrow had been working on a profile of Sam Altman for, I think he said, 18 months. I caught wind of it a little over a year ago, just cause he was calling everyone, And the word on the street was that he was like probing some really serious allegations,…”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 33:22 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Insight
Lessin: AI guardrails fail because agents trivially set up unrestricted compute
“This idea that like any one service can lock down, like what it will and won't do is ridiculous because as long as anything else on the internet will do it, like it'll just happen. You just ask the thing to like, do you do a much more complicated setup, which …”
Sam Lessin Apr 3, 2026 ▶ 26:55 OpenAI's $852 Billion Valuation Makes Zero Sense (ClawCon Tokyo, Anthropic's Leak, Goodbye Internet)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: OpenAI CFO Says Firm Is Exploring IP Licensing for Drug Discovery
“Sarah Fryer told me that they're looking at licensing IP for, like, drug discovery, right? Because the business model, she's the CFO of OpenAI, like, and this is something they're just looking at.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 51:48 OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin predicts SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic IPOs by 2027
“I think I've said this here by, you know, end of next year. Beginning of the next, real chance of SpaceX IPO, OpenAI IPO, Anthropic IPO.”
Jessica Lessin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 23:09 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: OpenAI's executive fiefdoms destroy the agility needed to execute Code Reds
“And when I look at what's happening in OpenAI, where they have a lot of very fancy people, people I like, but like the trade is, and you're going to get your fiefdom. And you're going to get to do important work you want to do. You then can't declare code reds…”
Sam Lessin Dec 5, 2025 ▶ 38:30 Code Red, Bitcoin Costs, AWS Resurgence, and Waymo Safety (Not About AI... ish) · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
Jessica Lessin asserts that OpenAI is definitely not pausing its advertising
“Guys, they're so not pausing ads.”
Jessica Lessin Dec 5, 2025 ▶ 35:44 Code Red, Bitcoin Costs, AWS Resurgence, and Waymo Safety (Not About AI... ish) · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: Laurene Powell Jobs is clearly backing OpenAI over Apple
“Laureen is clearly in team open AI in this In this battle playing out. And that, you know, she has had longstanding, obviously, relationships with Altman, and it's all relational, but I think it's interesting. And I do think that there's a time when it would h…”
Jessica Lessin Nov 28, 2025 ▶ 47:14 OpenAI vs Google vs Meta: Business Model War · More or Less Podcast
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