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Lessin: Microsoft, Amazon, and Google Used Multi-Billion Acqui-Hires to Avoid Regulators
“These deals, we've now had three, basically like billions of dollars of acquihires of teams to get around acquiring companies. Microsoft's done it, Amazon's done it, and now Google's done it.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 21:56 #59: Google: Can it Outrun Regulation? · More or Less Podcast
Disclosure
Lessin: Extremely bullish on AI only for Google and Meta ads
“I'm, as, if you hadn't heard, I'm extremely long AI only in the case of ads optimization and making a shitload of money for Facebook and Google”
Sam Lessin Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 10:04 #59: Google: Can it Outrun Regulation? · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Partly held up
Jessica Lessin: Google is highly unlikely to acquire Wiz for $23B
“Like, is Google for twenty-three billion dollars gonna buy Wiz security company? I think it's highly unlikely, but.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 19, 2024 ▶ 35:16 #56: Trump and the PayPal Mafia · More or Less Podcast
Disclosure
Gil: Google canceling Maven prompted defense tech pivot and backing Anduril
“I started getting into defense tech when Google shut down Maven because I was like, oh my gosh, if Google isn't doing it, what a great startup opportunity, you know? So I started looking for defense companies and then I met Anduril and I was like, oh my God, t…”
Elad Gil Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 29:09 #52: Elad Gil on What to Build in AI (Part II) · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Khosla: OpenAI executes crisply, while Google has great technology but poor execution
“I think OpenAI has been very good in execution, but Google has great technology and technologies. They just haven't been as crisp about their execution.”
Vinod Khosla Jun 14, 2024 ▶ 10:47 #51: Vinod Khosla on What to Build in AI · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Publishers will accept low AI licensing payouts out of fear
“Like, they're all sitting here now saying, you know, do we take the relative pennies from OpenAI and Apple and everyone who wants to license our content? And I actually think, unfortunately, they are, because publishers are so scared about what any kind of dro…”
Jessica Lessin Apr 5, 2024 ▶ 40:24 #41: Is AI Killing Media? · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: An 'apocalypse' is coming for SEO-driven publisher search traffic
“There's just an apocalypse coming, I have to say, around this kind of, sort of, publisher-driven search traffic, and so, And ergo, you know, they're taking deals that make no sense.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 5, 2024 ▶ 42:02 #41: Is AI Killing Media? · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI startup talent will recombine into Big Tech within years
“If you believe, as I do, that all the value is going to accrue to the top five players anyway, what you'd expect is that, like, on some non-zero timeline, but in the next few years, all the talent that got excited about these startup opportunities and went fly…”
Sam Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 33:22 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: Android is dying while Apple iOS completely dominates the market
“Android is kind of dying slash not working and iOS is just completely dominating.”
Sam Lessin Feb 16, 2024 ▶ 20:17 #34: 7 Trillion Reasons Why · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Incumbents like Meta and Adobe will win AI through grinding warfare
“And Meta and Adobe. And like, it's all the same people, right? And they're just going to do grinding warfare.”
Sam Lessin Jan 19, 2024 ▶ 34:49 #30: The Great App Store Debate, Layoffs, and Playoffs... Oh My! · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: The AI platform race will end with Apple and Google winning again
“I think it ends up being Apple and Google all over again, to be honest, at the end of the day.”
Brit Morin Jan 19, 2024 ▶ 34:42 #30: The Great App Store Debate, Layoffs, and Playoffs... Oh My! · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
Morin: Google Gemini Achieved 90% on MMLU, Beating Human Experts
“The essence of Gemini is, is this idea of multi-modality AI and the idea that it's now finally 90% Of sort of capability, and it outperforms humans. So the human percentage was, 86.4% as far as the human expert scale. Gemini is now 90%, and they call it”
Brit Morin Dec 8, 2023 ▶ 12:27 #26: Google Gemini, Meet Crypto-Cyber-Crystals · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Replacing blue links with AI answers kills 75% of news
“I'm just saying that kills the news business right there. So, or it kills 75% of the news business, right?”
Jessica Lessin Dec 8, 2023 ▶ 29:07 #26: Google Gemini, Meet Crypto-Cyber-Crystals · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Microsoft, Amazon, and Google are the big winners of OpenAI drama
“I think the big winners on this are Microsoft, actually, despite the challenges of the eyes. It's Amazon. It's going to be Google.”
Sam Lessin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 1:03:32 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Big Tech agreed to alert government when training AI models
“Meanwhile, Secretary Raimondo is telling me that all the big tech companies, OpenAI, Meta, Google, and so forth, are cooperating, are, and down to the level of agreeing to tell the government when they're running their next model.”
Jessica Lessin Nov 17, 2023 ▶ 6:45 #23: Why (and How) SMBs and Creators Will Win With AI, the New Financing Contracts, and More · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: DOJ antitrust case against Google will not be earth-shattering
“The DOJ Google case, it's hard to know how it's going. I think the DOJ will land some blows, but it's not going to be. Earth shattering.”
Jessica Lessin Sep 29, 2023 ▶ 38:45 #16: Why Your AI Startup is Probably Already Dead · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Meta, Google, and Amazon will be uncapped AI winners
“The big platforms, the Facebooks, sorry, the Metas, the Googles, the Amazons, are really going to be obviously huge winners from AI, and there's no cap on how big they can get anymore.”
Sam Lessin Sep 22, 2023 ▶ 29:46 #15: Instacart’s Fake IPO and Why Hiring in Tech Is So Broken · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Google Cloud is not gaining market share or meeting targets
“It's still nowhere, it's not gaining market share, which I don't know how much that really matters, but it and they've set all sorts of goals around that, that they're nowhere close to meeting.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 31, 2023 ▶ 34:59 #7: Elon's X game and RIP seed investing · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Brit Morin: Google is directly targeting Canva with Google Pics and Gemini
“Canva was on this like IPO darling list for so long, and now Google launched Google Pix, P-I-C-S, and without saying they're basically going after Canva, they're going after Canva, and everything is like Gemini integration, Google workspace integration, you co…”
Brit Morin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 46:35 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Current market conditions present a buying opportunity for Alphabet stock
“No, the markets today is another buying opportunity for Google.”
Sam Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 16:14 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Stanford: Google Gemini just reached one billion users
“I mean, Gemini just hit a billion users.”
Scott Stanford Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 12:47 Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: Mainstream consumers will choose Google over pricier AI rivals
“The normal Americans are going to go with the Google prices of this gas chart.”
Brit Morin May 22, 2026 ▶ 49:41 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: Google will eventually converge to build the best AI interface
“I think the fact that they have five products with more than three billion users that they can start implementing AI into, and even if it takes them longer to string it all together and unify the UI and the user experience across these things, they have the pe…”
Brit Morin May 22, 2026 ▶ 21:41 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Lessin: OpenAI and Anthropic represent half of major cloud deal backlogs
“And then we charted of the, we just had earnings, of the backlogs in deals for Microsoft, Oracle, Google, and Amazon, what percentage are OpenAI's commitment and Anthropi's commitment? It's together, they're about half, ok?”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 34:38 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin predicts Google's Gemini will rise in AI rankings this year
“I think by the end of this year, Gemini is, is much higher in the rankings.”
Brit Morin May 1, 2026 ▶ 39:42 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: Google is winning AI summarization in existing products
“Google is winning the AI summarization battle in terms of like your existing product.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 13, 2026 ▶ 12:39 Why OpenAI Can't Win The Decentralized AI Future (OpenClaw, Apple's Win, X.AI Exodus) · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Dave Morin: Winning enterprise healthcare matters more to OpenAI than Google
“I think it matters more to OpenAI to get that enterprise business than it does to Google.”
Dave Morin Jan 9, 2026 ▶ 50:44 Founders Beware: Illiquid Valuations vs. Real‑World Taxes · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Dave Morin: Google was the most dramatic mover in AI execution
“Not just sentiment, also an execution. I mean, if you just look at the usage of Gemini year over year, one year later, I mean, they were the most dramatic mover.”
Dave Morin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 13:01 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin says Apple and Google partnered for Gemini to power Siri
“Google and Apple are doing a Siri deal, so Siri is going to be powered by Gemini, essentially, until, until Apple, quote, figures it out, but it, there seems to be this pattern here of Apple realizing Google is, is pretty good at this stuff, and they'll be pre…”
Jessica Lessin Nov 7, 2025 ▶ 13:28 Apple Chooses Gemini, Sequoia's Leadership Shake-up, and Meme Coins · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Morin: Top hyperscalers projected to spend $400B this year
“And the Meg seven, not Apple, but the rest of them met a Google, Amazon, et cetera, are projected to spend about four hundred billion this year.”
Dave Morin Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 23:37 Oracle's GPU Margins, OpenAI’s Consumer Playbook, and the Ads vs Commerce Endgame · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Lessin: AI startups cannot compete directly against incumbent tech giants
“Like, I just think, like, the chessboard has matured enough that, like, the children don't think they're gonna get a seat at it. So, like, there was this moment where, like, a bunch of small warlords with, like, two followers were like, I'm gonna be the next k…”
Sam Lessin Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 40:08 #118 Elon vs Altman: The $10B Capital War Reshaping Tech · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: OpenAI and Google have struck a cloud deal
“And so now all of a sudden Google like open AI actually in Google. Have a deal. A cloud deal. It's, like, wild.”
Jessica Lessin Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 37:31 #118 Elon vs Altman: The $10B Capital War Reshaping Tech · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet put 60-80% of cash into AI; Apple 10%
“Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet are all in the 60 to 80% range right now. Apple is at 10%.”
Dave Morin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 26:37 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2028
Jessica Lessin: Anthropic will probably IPO before OpenAI
“I think Anthropic probably does it before OpenAI because they need it more, right? So if you put the need before, although I think Google and Amazon will continue to fund them.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 17:17 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: AI threatens Google's core business, but not Apple's
“His core business isn't threatened. Like, Google has to put chips down because, like, their core business is, like, too threatened. Meta has to put chips down, one, because Mark is just, like, hyper-competitive and cares about this. And because, like, they hav…”
Sam Lessin Jul 25, 2025 ▶ 35:26 #109 OpenAI vs Google: The Real Business Model War Begins · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Google Ads are The Information's best subscription acquisition channel
“Google, I will say Google's ads are wonderful for the information. Like, I will go on record saying that they are the best performing driving quality subs.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 17:08 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Google Will Not Save Publishers with Ad Micropayments
“The idea that Google is going to balance the equation with micropayments on ads, that's not going to happen.”
Sam Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 17:51 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Sam Lessin: Media Should Paywall High and Reinvest in Google Ads
“What you do is you keep behind a paywall, you charge a lot, you use that money to buy some ads from Google, it works.”
Sam Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 17:46 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Google is the only major AI product innovator among big tech
“We're also not seeing any product innovation from basically anyone other than Google, at least at the Meg seven level, Google's the main product innovator right now.”
Dave Morin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 10:33 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Google is offering buyouts to its search and advertising employees
“Another big story we had this week that kind of went under the radar because there's so much news is that Google's offering buyouts to employees in search and ads.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 51:44 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: OS is the obvious place for age enforcement, not apps
“Obviously the OS is the place to do this enforcement. If you care about it, it's one of those things. I've always found it fascinating that Apple and the community was able to like, put the blank, put the finger on Facebook or Google or Snapchat or whatever, w…”
Sam Lessin May 30, 2025 ▶ 16:11 #101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Morin: ChatGPT consistently outperforms Google Gemini on general contextual queries
“I've actually tried, I tried what you just described this week several times where I asked the same question to both. And ChatGPT always answers better in context, like in a way that makes me feel like the work is better than what Gemini answers for me. Not in…”
Dave Morin May 23, 2025 ▶ 36:22 OpenAI Teams Up with Jony Ive, Vibe Coding, Gemini, and More | More or Less #100 · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Held up
Lessin: Courts Likely to Bar Apple-Google Search Deal in Current Form
“The courts are likely to say that the Apple Google search deal cannot continue in its current form for antitrust reasons.”
Jessica Lessin May 9, 2025 ▶ 25:37 OpenAI Acquires Windsurf for $3B, Google's Stock Dips | #98 · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Contradicted
Jessica Lessin: Gemini's Daily Active Users Are Three Quarters of ChatGPT's
“I mean, if you look at daily actives, Gemini is about three quarters of ChatGPT at the moment.”
Jessica Lessin May 2, 2025 ▶ 16:42 How OpenAI Is Beating Google and Meta at Their Own Game · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Big tech antitrust trials will have no real impact
“I really doubt that any of this will have any real impact. What will ultimately happen is the technology winds will change, and just like United Fruit, it'll eventually kind of unravel.”
Sam Lessin Apr 25, 2025 ▶ 19:57 Google & Meta Trials, AI’s Media Collapse & Elon’s Tesla Comeback · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Contradicted
Britt Morin: Roughly 40% of people expect to stop using Google
“It's something like 40% of people think they're going to stop using Google the next two years.”
Brit Morin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 34:40 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Trump unlikely to pursue big tech breakups in near term
“I mean, did you look at the inauguration? These guys are now bending the knee to Trump, right? So, I don't see him playing hardball in the near term.”
Brit Morin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 33:38 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Gemini deep research handles complex queries no other model can
“And I've been shocked at the kinds of queries that it can do that none of the other models can.”
Dave Morin Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 1:06:04 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
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