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Opinion
Lessin: Meta cannot acquire any startups due to DOJ antitrust pressure
“By the way, Meta can't acquire anything anymore anyway because of the DOJ from a, you know, antitrust perspective, regulatory perspective.”
Sam Lessin Sep 27, 2024 ▶ 30:48 #66: Meta Connect, the Hardware Renaissance (or Not?) and Special Guest Dan Feder · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Default-private teen accounts will hurt Instagram's engagement metrics
“Changing the default is a huge deal. And I can't think of another technology company that is willingly, or perhaps under some pressure here, changed the default. It's something that actually really will, you know, influence the metrics. Perhaps damage the busi…”
Dave Morin Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 7:50 #65: Instagram, YouTube and the Kids · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Apple is the haughty Harvard of tech and ignores competitors
“I think realistically, Apple is very haughty. It's kind of like the Harvard of tech companies, and if someone else does it, they're gonna do the opposite.”
Sam Lessin Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 10:16 #65: Instagram, YouTube and the Kids · More or Less Podcast
Disclosure
Lessin: Extremely bullish on AI only for Google and Meta ads
“I'm, as, if you hadn't heard, I'm extremely long AI only in the case of ads optimization and making a shitload of money for Facebook and Google”
Sam Lessin Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 10:04 #59: Google: Can it Outrun Regulation? · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI startup talent will recombine into Big Tech within years
“If you believe, as I do, that all the value is going to accrue to the top five players anyway, what you'd expect is that, like, on some non-zero timeline, but in the next few years, all the talent that got excited about these startup opportunities and went fly…”
Sam Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 33:22 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Incumbents like Meta and Adobe will win AI through grinding warfare
“And Meta and Adobe. And like, it's all the same people, right? And they're just going to do grinding warfare.”
Sam Lessin Jan 19, 2024 ▶ 34:49 #30: The Great App Store Debate, Layoffs, and Playoffs... Oh My! · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Sam Lessin: Crypto is a business development hack against platform lock-in
“Part of the real answer for crypto for those types of use cases is I think pretty simple, which is everyone wants to be the CRM of record for that, but no one wants that person to be the CRM of record for that, right? So it's basically just like a standoff whe…”
Sam Lessin Dec 8, 2023 ▶ 39:12 #26: Google Gemini, Meet Crypto-Cyber-Crystals · More or Less Podcast
What-if
Lessin: If Facebook had acquired the DMV, online identity would be better
“And candidly, I think had Facebook bought the DMV a long time ago, you know, the world would be a better place. We'd have better, better online identity. And, ah, and maybe we'd be a little bit safer from some of the crazy interference we see, ah, these days i…”
Sam Lessin Dec 1, 2023 ▶ 1:33 #25: TikTok, Porn and The Immediate Risks of AI · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Big Tech agreed to alert government when training AI models
“Meanwhile, Secretary Raimondo is telling me that all the big tech companies, OpenAI, Meta, Google, and so forth, are cooperating, are, and down to the level of agreeing to tell the government when they're running their next model.”
Jessica Lessin Nov 17, 2023 ▶ 6:45 #23: Why (and How) SMBs and Creators Will Win With AI, the New Financing Contracts, and More · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
Dave Morin: Twitter was originally built to update Facebook statuses
“Jack Dorsey and Ev Williams And BizStone were launch partners of the Facebook platform, and they built Twitter to update Facebook statuses.”
Dave Morin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 19:24 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Lessin: Nobody Likes Twitter, So Copying It Has No Backlash
“The nice part about ripping off Twitter, if that's what this is, which it is is no one likes Twitter. So no one's like, oh, you ripped off Twitter.”
Sam Lessin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 21:37 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Threads will succeed as a platform but won't kill Twitter
“I actually am pretty optimistic. I think this will work. Now, whether it kills Twitter or just becomes yet another place you post things, I think is TBD. Like, I don't, it's hard to see it killing Twitter”
Sam Lessin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 10:28 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Morin: Mainstream audience will be on Threads within three years
“I think that the mainstream audience is going to be on threads and it's going to be powerful. And so I think to Sam's point, that distribution, Advantage can't be ignored and it will be very powerful three years from now, no question.”
Dave Morin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 31:39 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Apple easily deflects child safety and age verification blame onto Meta
“On the kids stuff, they get to blame. I mean, the stuff like the, like, age verification stuff will be It's so easy for them to do, but somehow it's Facebook's problem. Like, they're pretty good at pushing off blame to others.”
Sam Lessin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 35:25 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Morin: Meta's algorithms intentionally addict users to engagement feedback loops
“Meta systems are optimized for engagement. They addict you to the feedback loop in the algorithm.”
Dave Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 9:18 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Tech settlements only benefit lawyers and political AGs
“The only one who does well in the theater are the lawyers Who make a bunch of money on it, and like you get some AGs who get to say, I signed on to a thing, and like we won, and so everyone needs to be able to say they won.”
Sam Lessin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 29:14 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Dave Morin calls Meta's $17 billion multi-state settlement a nothing burger
“It seems like a nothing burger to me. The amount of money is de minimis. Doesn't matter.”
Dave Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 8:38 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Disclosure
Lessin repeatedly pitched that Facebook should acquire the DMV
“Peter, we used to have meetings for what we should buy, and my pitch was always that the Facebook should buy the DMV.”
Sam Lessin Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 20:56 Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Sam Lessin: Prediction markets must use real money to matter
“Well, we've talked about this like six times, and it has to be real money. It's not a thing if it's not real money.”
Sam Lessin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 4:28 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Highly unlikely a big platform successfully launches prediction markets
“I agree that it's extremely unlikely that a enormous company platform will successfully launch something as avant-garde as a, it's not impossible, but very unlikely.”
Sam Lessin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 17:19 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Latest Meta smart glasses are a watershed moment for female buyers
“Finally, this is the watershed moment of women buying smart glasses. Mark my words. Saying it now. That's all. So yes, I do think it was a big deal.”
Brit Morin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 8:54 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Prediction markets will succeed with women if built into Instagram
“I actually think it's going to hit on with Meta if they do this and they build it into things like Instagram, because I think these things are already at large scale.”
Brit Morin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 19:55 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Mark Zuckerberg's AI vision lacks the crispness of Facebook's original mission
“Look, and I say this as a huge, enormous fan of his and believer in him and, like, the whole thing. I just, it's not as crisp as make the world more open and connected.”
Sam Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 32:52 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Dave Morin: xAI and Meta Models Do Not Perform at the Highest Level
“I mean, just like, I don't think you can say it about XAI or Meta, because both XAI and Meta, despite the fact that their models are not performing at the highest level, they at least produced them, right?”
Dave Morin May 15, 2026 ▶ 38:37 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Meta Has an OpenClaw Fork for Personal Agents
“We've been aware for some time that they have a fork of OpenClaw and, you know, we expect they'll do something pretty big.”
Dave Morin May 8, 2026 ▶ 49:53 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin reports Meta's Manus acquisition was unwound after Chinese government intervention
“And of course they interfered and they did quick soon after in terms of sort of challenging the deal, calling back some of the key team to China. So they were in clear integration limbo, and now the deal is off, and they're sort of unwinding it, but.”
Jessica Lessin May 1, 2026 ▶ 36:43 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Contradicted
Lessin: Meta has shut down Horizon Worlds
“Horizon Worlds has been shut down too.”
Jessica Lessin Mar 20, 2026 ▶ 31:28 Nvidia’s GTC Was “Taylor Swift for Straight Men” (Apple, OpenAI, and OpenClaw News) · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Unlike rivals, Meta AI has zero personal context about individual users
“If you go ask all, all the four main systems, or five, the same question, the context is wildly different. Meta knows literally nothing. Like, they don't have any contextually relevant information about you.”
Dave Morin Nov 28, 2025 ▶ 42:55 OpenAI vs Google vs Meta: Business Model War · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Morin: Shocking Meta did not introduce AI group chats before OpenAI
“And I kind of look at this and I'm like, I think I said this on a previous pod that like this was by far the most obvious thing to do in social with AI. And it's like absolutely shocking to me that Meta did not do this first because it's like really, really ob…”
Dave Morin Nov 21, 2025 ▶ 18:00 Google Just Won AI, TikTok’s “Self-Control Badges”, ChatGPT Enters Group Chats · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: Consumers will not want smart displays over their eyes constantly
“I just still don't believe people are gonna want something in front of their eyes. Most of the day.”
Brit Morin Nov 14, 2025 ▶ 19:00 Apple’s iPhone Sock, Waymo's Bay Area Expansion, and AI Wearables · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Morin: Top hyperscalers projected to spend $400B this year
“And the Meg seven, not Apple, but the rest of them met a Google, Amazon, et cetera, are projected to spend about four hundred billion this year.”
Dave Morin Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 23:37 Oracle's GPU Margins, OpenAI’s Consumer Playbook, and the Ads vs Commerce Endgame · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta CMO Alex Schultz is the smartest growth marketer ever
“He's easily the smartest growth marketing person, like maybe of all time. Like he is the true source of truth for what growth marketing became in Silicon Valley.”
Dave Morin Aug 29, 2025 ▶ 47:47 #114 Seed Rounds at $2B? The Dangers of AI Hype in VC With Tony Conrad · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: AI threatens Google's core business, but not Apple's
“His core business isn't threatened. Like, Google has to put chips down because, like, their core business is, like, too threatened. Meta has to put chips down, one, because Mark is just, like, hyper-competitive and cares about this. And because, like, they hav…”
Sam Lessin Jul 25, 2025 ▶ 35:26 #109 OpenAI vs Google: The Real Business Model War Begins · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: Apple is not yet in the frontier AI league
“Apple is not in this league yet. They're doing cool things in AI in different areas, but, like, they're not-”
Jessica Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 39:42 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Supported
Lessin: OpenAI issued an internal panic memo over Meta poaching talent
“Then this memo came out of OpenAI saying, like, our house has been raided. We have to reconsider all these things. I also hear they have a week-long vacation this week, pre-planned at OpenAI.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 41:15 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Morin: Brands Must Shift Strategy as AI Commoditizes Digital Ads
“I think like brands are gonna have to shift so dramatically to doing other things because ads are gonna be commoditized.”
Brit Morin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 11:44 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Morin: Meta structured its 49% Scale AI stake to avoid FTC scrutiny
“So technically an avoidance of the FTC stake.”
Dave Morin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 40:17 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Morin: Parental controls on major platforms are rife with dark patterns
“The fact that, like, these parental controls are all rife with dark patterns to me is, like, an actual crime, and that you should be able to actually control these things and protect kids from them, but most of them you cannot.”
Dave Morin May 30, 2025 ▶ 17:35 #101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Sam Lessin: OS is the obvious place for age enforcement, not apps
“Obviously the OS is the place to do this enforcement. If you care about it, it's one of those things. I've always found it fascinating that Apple and the community was able to like, put the blank, put the finger on Facebook or Google or Snapchat or whatever, w…”
Sam Lessin May 30, 2025 ▶ 16:11 #101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Big tech antitrust trials will have no real impact
“I really doubt that any of this will have any real impact. What will ultimately happen is the technology winds will change, and just like United Fruit, it'll eventually kind of unravel.”
Sam Lessin Apr 25, 2025 ▶ 19:57 Google & Meta Trials, AI’s Media Collapse & Elon’s Tesla Comeback · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Brit Morin: Zuckerberg uses Meta control to pursue personal MMA interests
“I think it's just, like, in some ways cool that Zuck still has enough control of the company to, like, make shit happen like this, which clearly, like, is mostly just in his interests.”
Brit Morin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 50:31 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
Lessin: Unlike AI, Facebook was massively profitable from its early days
“Facebook was massively profitable. From the early days, it was always almost zero cost from a user perspective. It was a great business from the very early days.”
Sam Lessin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 30:03 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Trump unlikely to pursue big tech breakups in near term
“I mean, did you look at the inauguration? These guys are now bending the knee to Trump, right? So, I don't see him playing hardball in the near term.”
Brit Morin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 33:38 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Big Tech Wins AI if Scaling Simply Requires Infinite Spend
“If you believe that it's just a matter of dollars in to get it, then I'd actually be very bullish on like the metas and the biggest companies in the world because they're the ones who can spend infinitely.”
Sam Lessin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 47:52 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Contradicted
Sam Lessin: Meta Engineered Smart Glasses to Brick If Recording LED Disabled
“They spent so much time trying to figure out how to engineer it so that it would brick it if you try to disable that LED for exactly that reason. Like it's a wild, the amount of engineering that went into that, like, make sure the LED cannot be disabled for ex…”
Sam Lessin Feb 21, 2025 ▶ 54:50 #87: SKIMS To Revive Nike? AI Drama & The Satoshi Mystery · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Partly supported
Brit Morin: Meta Sells Two Million Smart Glasses, Ramping to Ten Million
“News of the week also, and a tangent is that Meta has now sold two million smart glasses and they're ramping up their production to push ten million this year.”
Brit Morin Feb 21, 2025 ▶ 53:31 #87: SKIMS To Revive Nike? AI Drama & The Satoshi Mystery · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Morin: DeepSeek validates Meta's open-source strategy by feeding advances back
“This DeepSeek thing is exactly what we were talking about, that by releasing Llama, you know, DeepSeek surely used it, and many others, sounds like, and the fruits of that win come back to Meta, like, overnight, right? And they can plug it back in and make mor…”
Dave Morin Jan 31, 2025 ▶ 51:49 #84: China's DeepSeek Shakes the Tech World · More or Less Podcast
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: A TikTok ban may not be good for Meta long-term
“I'm still not convinced that it's actually good for Meta long term for this to happen, but short term, you clearly remove a lot of ad dollars.”
Sam Lessin Jan 17, 2025 ▶ 28:48 #82: TikTok, Trade Wars & Tech 2.0 · More or Less Podcast
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