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Sapoznik: Switching from Siebel to Salesforce gives agents zero productivity

Gustavo Sapoznik · AI vs. Call Centers: ASAPP CEO Gustavo Sapoznik on the Future of Customer Service · Dec 13, 2023 · at 4:09

Gustavo Sapoznik is the Founder and CEO of customer service AI startup ASAPP. He critiques legacy contact center software transitions.

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“If you survey the agent that spent eight hours looking at Siebel and now is spending eight hours looking at Salesforce and you ask agent, how much more productive are you? The answer is effectively zero.”

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