Nubank

also referred to as: new bank · newbank

includes Nubank Card, Nubank Ultravioleta

19 statements across 2 episodes · 11 bullish · 2 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement May 16, 2024 by Jag Duggal · said 67 times in 5 episodes since 2023 · across every show →

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brought up most by Jag Duggal (30), Lenny Rachitsky (26), Sean Ellis (6), Gina Gotthilf (2), John Cutler (1)

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Everything said about Nubank, oldest first

May 16, 2024
Assertion Supported
Nubank customers petitioned Brazil's central bank to prevent its 2016 regulatory shutdown
“There was actually a moment a point when there was a risk because of some regulatory issues that were happening in Brazil in 2016, where there was a chance that new bank would have to shut down. And it turns out the central bank our customers called the centra…”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 1:34:06 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 negative
Insight
Giant platforms like Nubank and Google can mask failing products for years
“When you have a big app like new bank or places like Google and Facebook, you can make any product look great for months, if not years, because you have such a large customer base, you can always get them to try it with all sorts of basic techniques, but you'r…”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 30:09 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Nubank has more customers than Bank of America across just three countries
“Three new bank has more customers than bank of America, which is one of the four big banks in the U S while also only operating in three countries in Latin America.”
Lenny Rachitsky May 16, 2024 ▶ 5:18 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Duggal: Nubank is primary bank for about half of 90M+ users
“About half of our 90 plus million customers are now we are the primary relationship.”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 58:39 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Nubank is attempting to build the first global bank on one codebase
“We are trying to build what we believe is the first global bank on a single code base.”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 1:05:08 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 neutral
Insight
Duggal: Product Managers Must Resist Immense Executive Pressure to Prematurely Scale
“The pressure on the line product manager to scale the product that the entire company, the entire executive team, the entire management chain has been counting on. We're launching this thing. We all wanted to scale. We all are very excited about it. We had the…”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 29:04 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Duggal: Incumbent Brazilian banks were among world's most profitable and hated
“The large incumbent Brazilian banks were amongst the most profitable in the world. They were also amongst the most hated in the world.”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 7:11 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Nubank is larger than Coinbase, Robinhood, Affirm, SoFi, and Lemonade combined
“NewBank is bigger than Coinbase, Robinhood, Affirm, SoFi, and Lemonade combined.”
Lenny Rachitsky May 16, 2024 ▶ 5:04 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024
Insight
Duggal: Product concepts need more work if not explainable in two paragraphs
“Because if you can't tell me in two paragraphs why the customer you're building this for should care, then it's still work to do.”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 13:31 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Nubank is developing social features to replace legacy joint bank accounts
“Our hypothesis is it's not surprising that that artifact, that that product is not made for the modern customer. That it is easier for me to share a Spotify playlist with my wife or my daughter than it is for me to share a savings goal just mechanically. So we…”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 40:19 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024
Assertion Supported
Nubank uniquely launched with high-risk credit instead of standard deposit accounts
“Unlike almost everywhere else in the world, including in the U S where the answer was, we're going to do the bank account first. New bank's answer was no, we're going to do credit first. And credit is. 10 times harder and a hundred times more risky because you…”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 55:19 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
80% to 90% of Nubank's growth is driven by word of mouth
“80 to 90% of NewBank's growth is through word of mouth.”
Lenny Rachitsky May 16, 2024 ▶ 5:12 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Nubank instructs PMs to call 10 customers directly instead of surveying
“We've told many of our product managers and designers over the last two years, don't worry about serving a thousand customers, taking three weeks serving a thousand customers, getting a bunch of crosstabs, or even at the end of which it's very hard to read the…”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 26:08 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Duggal: Nubank bill-pay feature reached over 10M MAUs in 15 months
“We're now over ten million monthly actives on that product when we were struggling in the hundreds of thousands about 15 months ago.”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 25:01 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 positive
Insight
Duggal: Only Fundamentally Different Products Drive Word-of-Mouth Growth
“Again, it goes back to only fundamentally different gets customers to tell their friends.”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 52:40 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024
Insight
Nubank requires a 50% Sean Ellis score because Brazilians are culturally polite
“For us, our threshold isn't 40%. We've generally moved it up to 50%. I don't believe we have product market fit. Unless 50% of Brazilians are telling us they would be very disappointed because Brazilians are inherently polite more, more polite and more optimis…”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 16:22 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024
Assertion Supported
Duggal: Nubank achieved 94-95 NPS in Mexico and typical NPS in 70s-80s
“There are been, for example, in Mexico, we've recorded an NPS when we launched the first couple of years of 9495. Right. So yeah, which is way better than we got in Brazil, but our NPS scores skew in the seventies, eighties, and occasionally nineties.”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 17:12 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
May 16, 2024 positive
Insight
Duggal: Customer anecdotes usually trump quantitative data analysis in product research
“The anecdote usually trumps the data. And there are many times when I see teams that are, you know, doing very sophisticated analysis and they've sort of forgotten what the question is or what the conclusion they can draw from it truly is. So never lose sight …”
Jag Duggal May 16, 2024 ▶ 35:26 Be fundamentally different, not incrementally better | Jag Duggal (Nubank, Facebook, Google)
Sep 5, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Nubank requires a 50% PMF threshold before launching new products
“Every new product at new bank they build before they launch it, they wait for a 50% threshold for people to say, 50% of people would be disappointed if this product did not exist as they're developing it. And only then do they launch it publicly.”
Lenny Rachitsky Sep 5, 2024 ▶ 39:14 The original growth hacker reveals his secrets | Sean Ellis (author of “Hacking Growth”)
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