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Opinion
Ruiz: Drawing apps combined with generative models have no competitive moat
“There's nothing really defensible about like, Hey, it's an, it's a drawing app plus an LCM like model because there's going to be a lot of those models and there's going to be a lot of drawing apps.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 1:10:44 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ruiz: Collaborative whiteboards and text-to-diagram AI will become ubiquitous software commodities
“Kanban boards are in every productivity app now. I think the same thing is going to happen with collaborative whiteboards. It's like people like them. I'm making it easy. People are already doing it even without Teal Draw when it's hard. Like, yeah, that's goi…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 1:18:57 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Insight
Ruiz: Visual software challenges stem from aesthetic taste, not technical complexity
“It wasn't necessarily like technical problems that were really hard. It was more subjective problems where I think the thing that was lacking was the taste or the opinions or the, like the feeling for what good solutions were.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 6:12 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Assertion Supported
Ruiz: GPT-4V turns low-quality photos of paper wireframes into functional websites
“I can just take the screenshot here of, you know, that the dude posted of the drawing that he had made, you know, it's not even like a good photo. There's a pen, you know, across one of the screens, et cetera. But if you just give that with no other informatio…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 41:41 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ruiz: Users will never get complex AI prompts right on the first attempt
“You probably won't get ever get the prompt just right. Even if you have like a really, really, really good, you know, Three generations from now agent. Like you still have to put that information in. But you're never going to put the, all of the information in…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 49:25 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Insight
Ruiz: Interactive prototypes are necessary to define novel interactive software features
“In all those places, you kind of have to build something in order to figure out what you want to build.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 3:00 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Insight
Ruiz: Infinite canvas tools must follow standardized interaction conventions
“Like, if you're making a canvas this way, you have to kind of do them all. Like, your undo, redo should work in a specific way. Your selection should work in a specific way. Like, you know, the camera position and how the camera moves should work in a, you kno…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 12:40 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Opinion
Ruiz: Infinite canvas is the right interface for multimodal AI prototyping
“Like, if I hadn't spent the last two years building this, I would spend the next two years building this. Like, it is the right product for this type of type of feature.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 28:23 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Insight
Ruiz: Multimodal models don't need complex wireframes to generate UI components
“Sometimes you see with these multimodal prompting, like someone will draw a calculator, like in, in a lot of complexity and say, you know, make this real. And sure enough, you get back like a really complex full calculator. But if you did the same thing and yo…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 34:46 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Insight
Ruiz: AI coding's primary challenge is prompt iteration, not generating code
“The challenge is more on the input side than the output side. Like absolutely you could figure out a way for this thing to spit out like a working iOS app or something like that. The question is like, how do you tell it what you want and how do you iterate whe…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 48:37 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Insight
Ruiz: Real-time generative AI's value is the interaction experience, not outputs
“The output of this, like, while it is, like, a visual output, the output, like, doesn't actually matter. Like, it's gone in, in 16 milliseconds, and it's not coming back. And I think with all this AI stuff right now, just where we are with it, and just how com…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 1:07:22 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Disclosure
Ruiz: tldraw will require commercial licenses for funded companies
“Really the only change that's gonna happen once we launch it is we're gonna start selling commercial licenses for it. So if you are using TealDraw in a commercial product, or if you want to, then you know, if it's If you're funded or if you have revenue, then,…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 1:15:03 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Disclosure
Ruiz: tldraw is discussing a potential ChatGPT integration with OpenAI
“Hey, I'm talking to the good folks over at OpenAI tomorrow. Fingers crossed. Maybe we maybe we get it in, inside of ChatGPT or something.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 1:26:40 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Assertion Supported
Ruiz: Perfect Freehand is used by Canva, draw.io, and Excalidraw
“So that was perfect freehand, and that's now used in, like, Canva uses it, like, draw.io uses it, Excaldraw uses it, we use it at Tealdraw, all over the place.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 10:20 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Assertion Partly supported
Ruiz: tldraw Hit #1 on Hacker News and 40K Users on Launch Day
“There was like number one on Hacker News for a while. It was like the top trending repo on GitHub. A lot of people get, like, 40,000 people showed up at teilder.com to use it on that launch date.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 16:24 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Disclosure
Ruiz: tldraw accumulated nearly $200K in sponsorships before raising venture capital
“By then I had had almost 200,000 dollars of sponsorship, you know, and people were just signing up and signing up because there was no way to even be a customer.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 19:56 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ruiz: tldraw's 'Make It Real' demo garnered 22 million views in 30 days
“It was like, I think we're at like, For this month, last 30 days, like twenty two million views or something like that.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 22:50 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Insight
Ruiz: Vision models effectively interpret mixed visual assets on infinite canvases
“The fun of the Infinite Canvas and Teal Draw in particular is that you could just dump like whatever you want onto the canvas. Screenshots, text, images, other websites sticky notes, all that stuff. And the model, even as something that was in preview, like th…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 42:52 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Disclosure
Ruiz: tldraw sends text strings alongside canvas images to assist vision models
“Inside of the prompt for this, we do give it, like, an array of all the text that you've put in. We say, like, look, I know your vision isn't so good, or you have a hard time reading text sometimes when it's small... So we send those strings separately so that…”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 56:14 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ruiz: tldraw's real-time generative AI demo updates in 32 milliseconds
“No, I think it's now, like, to 32 milliseconds, basically as you go.”
Steve Ruiz Jan 5, 2024 ▶ 1:04:27 The Accidental AI Canvas - with Steve Ruiz of tldraw
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