quadratic attention

2 statements across 2 episodes · 0 bullish · 2 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Dec 24, 2024 by Dan Fu · across every show →

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Dec 24, 2024 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2029
Fu: Real-time long-context video generation cannot use quadratic attention
“You're certainly not going to do a giant quadratic attention computation to try to run that.”
Dan Fu Dec 24, 2024 ▶ 31:33 2024 in Post-Transformer Architectures: State Space Models, RWKV [Latent Space LIVE! @ NeurIPS 2024]
Feb 12, 2026 bearish
Insight
Dean: Scaling quadratic attention cannot reach billion- or trillion-token context windows
“But that's not going to be solved by purely scaling the existing solutions, which are quadratic. So a million tokens kind of pushes what you can do. You're not going to do that to a trillion tokens, let alone, you know, a billion tokens, let alone a trillion.”
Jeff Dean Feb 12, 2026 ▶ 15:24 The AI Frontier: from Gemini 3 Deep Think distilling to Flash — Jeff Dean
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