needle in a haystack
2 statements across 2 episodes · 0 bullish · 1 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement May 31, 2024 by Mark Huang · across every show →
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May 31, 2024 neutral
Huang: Needle in a Haystack is a primitive LLM benchmark prerequisite
“I think needle in a haystack is definitely, like, the standard for presenting the work in a way that people can understand and also proving out. I would say, like, I view it as, like, a primitive. That you have to pass in order to give the model any shot of do…”
Jun 25, 2024 negative
Frankle: Needle in a Haystack eval fails to measure holistic context usage
“I think the problems with needle in a haystack are well known. You know, it doesn't measure anything real. You're not even testing the model's ability to holistically use the context just to identify one part of the context. So you can do some wacky things to …”