mid-training
2 statements across 2 episodes · 1 bullish · 1 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Jun 19, 2025 by Noam Brown · across every show →
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Jun 19, 2025 positive
Brown: OpenAI models undergo mid-training and post-training before release
“For open AI models, like, they go through a mid-training step, and then they go through a post-training step, and then they're released, and they're a lot more useful. Like, frankly, if you interacted with the only pre-trained model, it would be super difficul…”
Jul 22, 2026 negative
Kant: Mid-training stages exist due to organizational silos, not necessity
“Mid-training exists because there's a mid-training team now, right? There's people or like people decide to focus on like a mid-training effort. But what you really want is engineering. And skill of experiments that allows for a much more continuous spectrum t…”