language models
also referred to as: language model
54 statements across 32 episodes · 22 bullish · 13 bearish · 29 people on the record · first statement Oct 20, 2023 by Jeremy Howard · across every show →
Everything said about language models, oldest first
Oct 20, 2023 negative
Alignment tax happens because models are fine-tuned instead of continued pre-trained
“ULM fit is the wrong approach and that's why we're seeing a lot of these You know, so-called alignment tax, and this view of like, oh, a model can't both code and do other things. You know, I think it's actually because people are training them wrong.”
Oct 20, 2023 positive
Howard: Accurate next-token prediction forces models to learn world models and causality
“I thought, okay, so if I do this at a much bigger scale, using all of Wikipedia, what would it need to be able to do to finish a sentence in Wikipedia effectively, to do it quite accurately, quite often? I thought, geez, it would actually have to know a lot ab…”
Oct 20, 2023 positive
Jan 11, 2024 positive
Jan 11, 2024
Lambert: Training LLM reward models on 0-to-10 ratings failed
“People tried that with language models, which is if you have a prompt and a completion and you just have someone rate it from zero to 10, could you then train a reward model on all of these completions and zero to 10 ratings and see if you could actually chang…”
Feb 28, 2024 positive
Firshman: CLIs are a more natural fit for LLMs than GUIs
“It's almost more natural to a CLI than it is in a graphical user interface, because it feels like there's back and forth with the computer. Yeah. Almost funnily like a language model. So I think there's some interesting intersection of like CLIs and language m…”
Apr 11, 2024 positive
Apr 24, 2024 positive
Apr 24, 2024 bearish
Liu: Admitted being bearish on LLMs for four years before recent breakthroughs
“I mean, the biggest one really was the fact that, like, I think for just four years I was so bearish on language models. And just NLP in general, I was just like, ah, like, none of this really works. Like, why would I spend time focusing on this? I gotta go do…”
Apr 27, 2024 bullish
Jun 11, 2024 bullish
Conover: Programming LLMs as zero-marginal-cost machine learning systems is underappreciated
“I think that it is underappreciated how powerful, there's the generative capabilities of language models, but there's also the ability to program them to function as arbitrary machine learning systems, basically for marginally zero cost.”
Jun 21, 2024 negative
Brady: Elicit routinely sees 10x p90 latency variation when prompting LLMs
“We do often normally, in fact, see a 10 X variation in P-ninety latency over the course of half an hour. When we're prompting these models, which is way higher than if you're working with a, you know, a more, more kind of conventional conventionally backed API…”
Jun 25, 2024 neutral
Aug 7, 2024 neutral
Ravi: Video segmentation requires far less context than language models
“A difference to language models is probably the amount of context that you need is significantly less than maintaining a long multi-term conversation. And so, you know, coupling this short-term spatial memory with this, like, longer-term object pointers we fou…”
Aug 28, 2024
Aug 28, 2024 negative
Aug 28, 2024 neutral
Carlini: Always qualify claims about AI with 'for current models'
“Whenever someone says X is true about language models, you should always append the suffix for current models, because I'll be the first to admit I was one of the people who was very much on the opinion that these language models are fun toys and are going to …”
Aug 28, 2024 negative
Carlini: Most AI commentators spin arguments based on ideology rather than reality
“I feel like most people who write about language models being good or bad, some underlying message of like, you know, they have their camp and their camp is like, AI is bad or AI is good or whatever. And they like, they spin whatever they're gonna say accordin…”
Sep 19, 2024 neutral
Jamil: LLM Attention Allocates Most Weight to Initial Tokens
“So we have seen with the paper called sync attentions that actually the language model allocates a lot of a lot of, because when you do the attention mechanism, you are doing a weighted sum over the tokens, and each token is given a weight, and we see that mos…”
Sep 27, 2024 negative
Shunyu Yao argues modern LLMs make prompt engineering tricks obsolete
“I feel like in some sense, I feel like prompt engineering, even it's like a slightly negative word at the time, because it refers to all those kind of weird tricks that you have to apply. But I think we don't have to do that anymore. Like given today's progres…”
Nov 28, 2024 neutral
Jan 2, 2025 neutral
Lambert: Autoregressive LLMs lack explicit internal structures for intermediate state
“Language models have no ability to do this. They are. Kind of per token computation devices where each token is outputted after doing this forward pass and within that there's no explicit structure to hold these intermediate states.”
Mar 7, 2025 neutral
The Fundamental Language of AI Will Likely Remain Python
“The things that language models understand best tend to be the kind of piece of code that are represented on the internet. You know, maybe I don't think a lot of people would be happy with this, that maybe the kind of fundamental language of AI becomes Python …”
Mar 7, 2025 positive
LLMs Have Strong Priors for Code, But None for Mouse Movement
“A language model, for example, has no prior for a mouse movement. It, you know, it really never seen that on the internet, but it has a really strong prior for code. So out of the two categories, say web browsing and coding, coding is the only one that is actu…”
Mar 7, 2025 negative
Mar 7, 2025 bullish
Future UIs Will Be Built as Programmatic Interfaces for AI Models
“Over the coming years, there'll be more kind of AI friendly or language model friendly UIs. And what's friendly to a language model is, is code. So the way a model will be doing work, not just for coding and software engineering, Is by basically making functio…”
Apr 29, 2025
Jin: Language models map directly to reinforcement learning policies
“So the states are, like, the text prefixes, so the initial states, like, the prompt the actions are the next tokens that means, like, a language model is, like, exactly what a policy is, right? A policy maps a state to a probability distribution of our next ac…”
Jun 6, 2025
Ameisen: LLMs plan future tokens rather than operating purely myopically
“Language models are next token predictors is like a fact. Like that is what they do. They are trained to predict the next token. However, that does not mean that they myopically only consider the next token When they choose the next token, you can work on brea…”
Jun 6, 2025 neutral
Ameisen: Superposition is more severe in language models than in vision models
“That means that like language models pack a lot more in less space than Vision models. So maybe like a kind of like really hand wavy analogy, right? It's like, well, if you want curve detectors, like you don't need that many curve detectors. You know, if each …”
Jun 6, 2025 neutral
Ameisen: Language model neurons are far less directly interpretable than vision neurons
“If you look at just the neurons of a lot of vision models, you can See neurons that are curve detectors or that are edge detectors or that are high, low frequency detectors. And so you can sort of like make sense of the neurons mostly. But if you look at neuro…”
Jun 11, 2025 positive
Jun 11, 2025 positive
Jul 2, 2025 bearish
Jul 2, 2025 neutral
Jul 16, 2025 bullish
Jul 31, 2025 bearish
Lambert: Current Language Models Cannot Prioritize Experiments for Multi-Week Research Plans
“So it's like, how do you come up with a research plan in 10 weeks? Like there's a lot of, how do you prioritize which experiments to do? It's like, there's a lot of inductive biases that go into that, that I don't like a language model would not do well at tha…”
Oct 2, 2025 negative
Howard: Correcting LLM errors in chat history degrades subsequent model answers
“The autoregressive nature of language models means that if they make a mistake, and you correct it, and then say, no, that was a mistake, please do it this way instead. The more often you do that, the worse the dialogue answers get. Because it's in the trainin…”
Nov 2, 2025 negative
Nov 6, 2025 bullish
Zuckerberg: Specialized virtual cell models will merge into a biological Omni model
“I would imagine you're taking these different types of virtual cell models and eventually merging them into the equivalent of like a biological Omni model, kind of like how on the language model side, you had people that did language and then, you know, people…”
Dec 31, 2025 negative
Merullo: Current machine unlearning techniques merely suppress data rather than removing it
“I would describe it more as not unlearning, but maybe suppression. I think there's, like, really, like, I guess, guarantees that you've fully removed information from a model is, is, I don't think it's been convincingly showed anywhere yet”
Dec 31, 2025 neutral
Merullo: LLM memorization spans a gradient from reasoning to rote recall
“You can actually see, like the way that we, like, disentangle memorization, you can kind of see this like, gradient of memorization in between both mechanistically and behaviorally with, like, logical reasoning tasks being quite distinct from rote memorization…”
Dec 31, 2025 bullish
LLMs are commoditizing like raw compute, shifting value to abstraction layers
“Language models themselves are more like compute or GPU a generation ago, where what can we build at the layer above? And in software systems, we've traditionally thought of VMware being a great example. You have the operating system and the underlying archite…”
Feb 5, 2026 positive
Deng: Visual interpretability yields faster feedback cycles than language models
“With language models, when you get features, you still have to do auto interpret and things like that to actually get an understanding of what this concept is. But in image and video and world, it's like extremely easy to grok what the concept is because you c…”
Feb 5, 2026 positive
Feb 12, 2026
AlphaFold Models Have Fewer Parameters but Higher Compute Costs Than LLMs
“They, in terms of parameters, are actually not very big. They are definitely below a billion parameters. You know, if you're here these days in LLM space, you know, a model with less than a billion parameters, you'd think can't do anything. But on the other ha…”
Jun 1, 2026 positive
Jun 1, 2026 bullish
Jun 1, 2026 neutral
Jun 1, 2026 bullish
Ethan He: LLM Video Agents Will Orchestrate Diffusion Models and Editing Tools
“Video agents, mostly language models, they'll call these generative model, either it's a separate model or a diffusion head or whatever as tool. So this model can iteratively Refine the results or even like you generate longer content through a very long trend…”
Jun 1, 2026 positive
Ethan He: Visual intelligence in video generation models stems primarily from language models
“The visual intelligence are actually mostly coming from language. Like, these video models, especially from now, since the diffusion model technology is more mature, the, like, every time you see there, there's some improvement on these models, I would say mos…”
Jun 1, 2026 neutral
Aug 26, 2026 neutral
Anandkumar: Scientific AI Bottleneck Is Real-World Testing, Not Hypothesis Generation
“Yes, you can do a lot of hypothesis generation. You can have ideas, but ideas are not enough, right? So you can have a lot of ideas. The bottleneck is going, testing, and verifying that they work in the real world.”
Aug 26, 2026 negative
Regulating AI for science like large language models creates serious problems
“A lot of regulatory frameworks equate AI with language models and Yes, language models can, you know, manipulate people, can have all these kinds of harmful impacts that we should think about controlling, but AI for science is different. So I think this one si…”
Sep 4, 2026 bullish
Anandkumar: Dense physics feedback enables better AI self-improvement than sparse LLMs
“And the difference there is compared to language where self-improvement needs something like human feedback or other reward signals that are very sparse. They just tell you yes or no, thumbs up or down. We have dense feedback because the physics laws, there's …”