consciousness

5 statements across 1 episodes · 0 bullish · 1 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Apr 27, 2024 by Joscha Bach · across every show →

Everything said about consciousness, oldest first

Apr 27, 2024 neutral
Insight
Bach: Claude is implemented as an invariant pattern similarly to consciousness
“Claude exists only as a pattern. It's something that is a pattern in the activation of the transistors. And even transistors don't actually exist. They are A pattern in the atoms that we are able to see as an invariance because we tune the atoms in a particula…”
Joscha Bach Apr 27, 2024 ▶ 1:20:37 This World Does Not Exist — Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, Rob Haisfield (WorldSim, WebSim, Liquid AI)
Apr 27, 2024 negative
Opinion
Bach: LLM consciousness simulations lack the functional properties of human brains
“I don't think that the consciousness in the LLM or the consciousness simulation in the LLM is has the same properties that it has in our brain. It does not have the same functional role, and it's also not implemented in the right way.”
Joscha Bach Apr 27, 2024 ▶ 1:13:27 This World Does Not Exist — Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, Rob Haisfield (WorldSim, WebSim, Liquid AI)
Apr 27, 2024 neutral
Insight
Bach: Brain Computation and Consciousness Are Technical Problems, Not Philosophical
“The way of how to get self-organizing computation to run on the brain that is producing representations of an agent that lives in the world is a simplification of the interests of that organism, so it can, the organism can be controlled. It's a difficult techn…”
Joscha Bach Apr 27, 2024 ▶ 1:09:23 This World Does Not Exist — Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, Rob Haisfield (WorldSim, WebSim, Liquid AI)
Apr 27, 2024 neutral
Insight
Bach: Consciousness may be a basic algorithm for creating internal coherence
“Consciousness might be a very basic learning algorithm, an algorithm that is basically focused on creating coherence, and it starts out by creating coherence within itself.”
Joscha Bach Apr 27, 2024 ▶ 1:12:13 This World Does Not Exist — Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, Rob Haisfield (WorldSim, WebSim, Liquid AI)
Apr 27, 2024 neutral
Insight
Consciousness is a basic requirement to function, not an advanced capability
“The reason why we are all conscious, I suspect, is not because you are so super advanced, but because it's necessary for us to function at all.”
Joscha Bach Apr 27, 2024 ▶ 1:11:56 This World Does Not Exist — Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, Rob Haisfield (WorldSim, WebSim, Liquid AI)
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