computer vision
2 statements across 2 episodes · 1 bullish · 1 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Dec 18, 2025 by Pengchuan Zhang · across every show →
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Dec 18, 2025 bullish
Zhang: Superhuman computer vision requires RLHF rather than human SFT data
“But if you only do SFT and the SFT data is annotated by human, then your performance is funded by human. You cannot get, kind of, superhuman performance just by, kind of, this kind of data engine approach to use human annotated data and then learn from that. Y…”
Apr 2, 2026 bearish
Manning: Vision understanding stalled; language does 90% of work in VLMs
“I mean, I think it's fair to say that, you know, vision understanding sort of stalled out, right? You got to object recognition, and then progress just wasn't being made, right? If you look at any of these vision language models, it's the language that's doing…”