closed-source models

also referred to as: closed source model · closed source models

6 statements across 5 episodes · 3 bullish · 2 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Mar 6, 2024 by Soumith Chintala · across every show →

Everything said about closed-source models, oldest first

Mar 6, 2024
Insight
Chintala: Childhood trust in institutions determines views on open AI safety
“And this might be a little controversial, but like, I find a lot of arguments, ah, based on whether, like, closed source models are safer, or open source models are safer, very much related to whether, what kind of cultural, ah, culture they grew up in, what k…”
Soumith Chintala Mar 6, 2024 ▶ 1:08:27 Open Source AI is AI we can Trust — with Soumith Chintala of Meta AI
Nov 25, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Specialized open-source expert models will outperform one-size-fits-all closed-source models
“And that's our prediction is With specialization, there will be a lot of expert models, really, really good, and even better than, like, one size fits all open source closed source model.”
Lin Qiao Nov 25, 2024 ▶ 33:45 Why Compound AI + Open Source will beat Closed AI — with Lin Qiao, CEO of Fireworks AI
Sep 8, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Yurtseven: Closed-source models cannot foster effective LoRA ecosystems
“Like I've never seen a closed source model that can create a good LoRa ecosystem. It just basically doesn't exist.”
Gorkem Yurtseven Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 47:18 A Technical History of Generative Media
Oct 1, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Feldman: AI startups are replacing closed-source models with fine-tuned open-source
“I think for sort of AI companies like Cognition, like all your competitors, like AlphaSense, like dozens of others, they are trying to replace closed source models with very, very fast open source models, and they're trying to drive the open source Accuracy dr…”
Andrew Feldman Oct 1, 2025 ▶ 14:20 ⚡️Raising $1.1b to build the fastest LLM Chips on Earth — Andrew Feldman, Cerebras
Mar 30, 2026 negative
Opinion
Lample: Closed models prevent enterprises from leveraging proprietary domain data
“When customers use this off-the-shelf closed model, what's very sad is that they are not leveraging, you know, these data that they have been collecting for four years, or sometimes for decades. So much data, sometimes it's trillions of tokens or data in a ver…”
Guillaume Lample Mar 30, 2026 ▶ 0:00 Mistral: Voxtral TTS, Forge, Leanstral, & Mistral 4 — w/ Pavan Kumar Reddy & Guillaume Lample
Mar 30, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lample: Mistral can build fine-tuned models 10x cheaper than closed models
“On here we can sometimes build something 10 X cheaper by just fine tuning a model, and it would be better on prem, on their own server, and also much cheaper as well”
Guillaume Lample Mar 30, 2026 ▶ 25:07 Mistral: Voxtral TTS, Forge, Leanstral, & Mistral 4 — w/ Pavan Kumar Reddy & Guillaume Lample
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