Chinchilla

3 statements across 2 episodes · 1 bullish · 1 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Jul 23, 2024 by Thomas Scialom · said 14 times in 6 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Jul 23, 2024 neutral
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Scialom: Llama 1 and 2 flagship size was chosen to reproduce Chinchilla
“Lama two, maybe I would say it's like Lama one. We had a flagship model, which was seven TB. It's also because the project was taking some routes to reproducing a chinchilla, which was a seven TB.”
Thomas Scialom Jul 23, 2024 ▶ 9:23 Training Llama 2, 3 & 4: The Path to Open Source AGI — with Thomas Scialom of Meta AI
Jul 23, 2024 bullish
Insight
Scialom: Overtrain models beyond Chinchilla optimal to minimize inference costs
“And so, to be compute efficient at inference time, it's much better to train it much longer training time, even if it's an effort, an additional effort, than to have a bigger model. That's what I call, like, I refer to the chinchilla trap, Not that Chinchilla …”
Thomas Scialom Jul 23, 2024 ▶ 11:44 Training Llama 2, 3 & 4: The Path to Open Source AGI — with Thomas Scialom of Meta AI
Aug 29, 2025 negative
Assertion Supported
Morcos: Kaplan and Chinchilla scaling laws incorrectly assume all data is equal
“And even if you go and you look at the scaling laws work from Kaplan and Chinchilla and all these other things, they all assume IID data which is insane. We know that all data are not created equal, that garbage in garbage out is like the oldest adage in compu…”
Ari Morcos Aug 29, 2025 ▶ 8:25 Better Data is All You Need — Ari Morcos, Datology
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