academia

10 statements across 9 episodes · 2 bullish · 5 bearish · 10 people on the record · first statement Jul 5, 2024 by Yi Tay · across every show →

Everything said about academia, oldest first

Jul 5, 2024 neutral
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Tay: Google and OpenAI built general models three years before academia
“Places like Google and Meta, OpenAI, we will be working on things, like, Three years ahead of everybody else, and then suddenly, like, then Academia would be, like, still working on, like, these task-specific things.”
Yi Tay Jul 5, 2024 ▶ 7:07 The 10,000x Yolo Researcher Metagame — with Yi Tay of Reka
Sep 27, 2024 negative
Opinion
Shunyu Yao says academic AI research overcomplicates methods on simplistic tasks
“And I think in general, what people do in academia that I think is not good is they choose a very simple task, like Alford, and then they apply overly complex methods and to show the improved two percent I think like you should probably match, you know, the le…”
Shunyu Yao Sep 27, 2024 ▶ 31:32 Language Agents: From Reasoning to Acting — with Shunyu Yao of OpenAI, Harrison Chase of LangGraph
May 23, 2025 positive
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Will Brown: Academia Will Likely Be the Best Source of AI Evals
“I mean, I do think that like the best source of evals going forward is probably going to be academia.”
Will Brown May 23, 2025 ▶ 23:43 ⚡️Multi-Turn RL for Multi-Hour Agents — with Will Brown, Prime Intellect
Jul 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Morris: Two years of academic AI research on small models was inconsequential
“There was like kind of two years where everyone in academia was working on like smaller models and none of it really mattered.”
Jack Morris Jul 2, 2025 ▶ 8:36 Information Theory for Language Models: Jack Morris
Nov 25, 2025 neutral
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Johnson: Academic labs can no longer train state-of-the-art AI on few GPUs
“Like five or 10 years ago, you really could train state-of-the-art models in the lab even with just a couple of GPUs. But, you know, because that technology was so successful and scaled up so much, then you can't train state-of-the-art models with a couple of …”
Justin Johnson Nov 25, 2025 ▶ 9:51 After LLMs: Spatial Intelligence and World Models — Fei-Fei Li & Justin Johnson, World Labs
Dec 30, 2025 negative
Insight
Nair: Academia rewards complex math over simple, generalizable solutions
“One of the pitfalls of academia is that it doesn't really reward, like, simple ideas that work, and instead kind of tends to reward, like, kind of mathier ideas. Those mathier ideas also give you these, like, kind of implicit knobs to tune that allow you to, l…”
Ashvin Nair Dec 30, 2025 ▶ 10:52 [State of RL/Reasoning] IMO/IOI Gold, OpenAI o3/GPT-5, and Cursor Composer — Ashvin Nair, Cursor
Jan 28, 2026 negative
Opinion
White: AI for Science Is Difficult in Academia and Demands Bigger Bets
“AI over science is just, I think, A, difficult to do in academia, and B, so exciting, but I think you can take bigger bets, and I think having a tenured position and writing research grants is maybe not the biggest bet you can take on, on a field.”
Andrew White Jan 28, 2026 ▶ 13:08 🔬 From Red Teaming GPT-4 to Automating Drug Discovery: The Future of AI in Science — Andrew White
Jul 16, 2026 negative
Opinion
Beam: Academia lacks the scaled compute needed for frontier AI
“Academia has a lot going for it. Access to scaled compute is not one of the things that it has going for it, or scaled resources.”
Andy Beam Jul 16, 2026 ▶ 2:33 🔬 RL with Verifiable Rewards, but the Verifier is a Lab — Lila Sciences
Jul 21, 2026 positive
Opinion
Wang: Academia is the primary source of innovation in biotech
“I still deeply believe that academic is the main source of innovation for the whole field, and particularly when it comes to biotech.”
Bo Wang Jul 21, 2026 ▶ 1:14:10 🔬Causal Models Need Causal Data - Xaira’s X-Cell model (Bo Wang & Ci Chu)
Jul 21, 2026 neutral
Insight
Chu: Academia drives accidental discovery while industry excels at scaling data
“These innovations take so long and the discovery process can be so accidental, right, that It's perhaps not ideal for pure industry to take on, but once they show early promise, scaling them, and robustifying them, and generating data that's not only massive, …”
Ci Chu Jul 21, 2026 ▶ 1:17:57 🔬Causal Models Need Causal Data - Xaira’s X-Cell model (Bo Wang & Ci Chu)
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