Jonathan Haidt

Professor of Ethical Leadership, NYU Stern · 1 appearance on the record.

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Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist who studies moral reasoning and the effects of social media on development and democratic institutions. He is the author of books including The Righteous Mind, The Coddling of the American Mind, and The Anxious Generation.

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2 predictions · 13 assertions · 6 opinions · 18 insights · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 15 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 10 are resolved, and 5 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Jonathan argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

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Haidt: A child would wait 700,000 years in a car before abduction
“There are about a hundred people, a hundred kids abducted a year in the United States by strangers. At present rates of abduction, you'd have to leave your kid alone in a car in a parking lot for 700,000 years before they would probably be abducted.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 51:27 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad

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Everything Jonathan Haidt said on the Knowledge Project that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Haidt: Campus victimhood culture awards social status for weakness and victimization
“They say reflects a new moral culture in which you achieve status, not by being strong, not by being beautiful, not by being smart. You achieve status by being, by emphasizing how much you've been victimized, and if you haven't been victimized, then you achiev…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 31:41 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: Modern fragility and speech norms make Gen Z bad workplace cooperators
“It's that they've been raised with a set of norms. That's really bad for them. That makes them very bad cooperators. And if you can't cooperate, you can't be employed.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 37:40 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Assertion Supported
Haidt: A child would wait 700,000 years in a car before abduction
“There are about a hundred people, a hundred kids abducted a year in the United States by strangers. At present rates of abduction, you'd have to leave your kid alone in a car in a parking lot for 700,000 years before they would probably be abducted.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 51:27 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Opinion
Haidt: Academic classrooms must not be safe spaces
“Our argument has always been that the classroom must not be a safe space, that classrooms must be places where any claim will be challenged, not Not attacked not shamed, but counterarguments backed by evidence will be given.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 1:04:21 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
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Haidt: Youth born after 1995 face surging anxiety, depression, and self-harm
“Kids born after 1995 have really high rates of anxiety, depression, self-harm, and suicide.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 2:52 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
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Haidt: Adolescent mood disorders surged beginning in 2011, especially among girls
“What they show is a big rise in depression and anxiety only. There's no change in bipolar disorder, schizophrenia no other category. It's just mood disorder, so depression and anxiety. It begins going up around 20 11. It goes up steadily and sharply. It goes, …”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 4:34 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Assertion Supported
Haidt: Modern working women spend more hours on childcare than 1950s mothers
“There's an amazing statistic we found, that if you look at the total number of hours that women spent doing childcare in the 19 fifties, when very few of them worked outside the home, and you compare that to the total number of hours of childcare that they do …”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 11:00 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: Ages 8 to 12 are a critical window for unsupervised peer adventure
“And so from age eight to 12, I think, is a sensitive period where kids are supposed to have adventures with other kids they play all kinds of games, they self-organize, and what we've done is we've taken that critical period, and we've said, stop, you don't ge…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 13:09 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
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Haidt: Randomized trials prove quitting social media directly improves mental health
“There are now a number of experiments in which they randomly assign people to get off social media for a few weeks and lo and behold, you see very direct improvements in mental health.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 16:47 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Assertion Supported
Haidt: Female teen suicide is at record highs across the Anglosphere
“They're having exactly the same gigantic increase in girls' depression, anxiety, and self-harm and suicide in the US and UK and Canada. We're all at record high levels for teenage, for female teenage suicide. So this is throughout the Anglosphere.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 17:09 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
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Haidt: Millennials escaped social media harm due to later brain development
“When the millennials got social media in college or later, they weren't damaged by it. There's no sign that millennials had a crisis of mental health, because their social nature was largely, their brains were mostly developed.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 18:28 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Opinion
Haidt: Middle schoolers should have no social media accounts
“I think the case can be made and should be made, and I'm beginning to make, that every middle school principal should say, parents, please don't let your kids have a social media account. There should be no social media In middle school.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 18:42 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: Cap screen time at two hours, ban social media before high school
“So any parents who are listening to this podcast, I urge you to follow a few simple rules. That is two hours a day of screen time. And actually, the Apple controls are very good for that. The new ones just out a few months ago are actually very good for that. …”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 20:37 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: University administrators reflexively surrender to student demands for emotional safety
“It leads to an attitude in which everyone is afraid to judge on a case-by-case basis, and the response is pretty much always to give the students what they want. So individual professors do that. Administrators do that. And so if students are saying that somet…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 28:29 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: The definition of trauma has expanded to mean mere unpleasantness
“Ideas of trauma are important in psychology and psychiatry, but now trauma has expanded to mean just unpleasant experience.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 29:47 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Haidt: Call-out culture and self-censorship will severely stunt Gen Z creativity
“And this means we have, we might have a generation that's afraid of, afraid to take risks, afraid to Play with ideas afraid to challenge dominant ideas. it's gonna lead to a lot more conformity and a lot more, a lot less creativity.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 35:29 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Opinion
Haidt: Tech, Media, and Arts Workplaces Are Changing to Accommodate Gen Z
“I've heard from a number of people in journalism, the arts, and media, and tech. In those four industries, it seems as though the organizations are changing to accommodate the students.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 36:37 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: Humans evolved for group combat and confirmation bias, not truth-seeking
“If you're a homo sapien, you evolved for group combat, you evolved for confirmation bias and motivated reasoning. We're not really evolved to be academics or scientists searching for a truth in an unbiased way. We evolved to basically, you know, CYA and win in…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 41:13 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Opinion
Haidt: Academic freedom ended because out-of-context tweets trigger severe public backlash
“For academics, I, you know, we used to be able to be provocative, and in academic seminars and at conferences, we could be provocative. We could raise hypotheses that could even be, you know, upsetting to some people. But that kind of ended in the last few yea…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 44:20 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: Human morality relies on five innate evolutionary foundations
“The five best candidates for being the taste buds of the moral sense, or the moral foundations were, Care, you know, care and compassion because we're mammals. We nurture our young. Fairness, reciprocity versus cheating. We're all sensitive to that. Loyalty, y…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 1:07:44 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Assertion Supported
Haidt: US teen suicide is up 25% for boys, 70% for girls
“The rates of self-harm, that is kids who are hospitalized because they cut themselves, that, that's for girls only. Boys are not changing on that. That goes way up in the same pattern, and then it's also suicide. The boys' suicide rate in the United States is …”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 5:07 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: Overprotection Since the 1990s Deprived Kids of Experiential Learning
“Kids learn best from feedback, from experience. And beginning, especially in the 19 nineties in the United States, and I think perhaps in Canada too we began really overprotecting kids. That is not giving them unsupervised time where they could learn from thei…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 6:54 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Assertion Partly supported
Haidt: Unsupervised outdoor play shifted from age 6 to ages 10–14
“And people who were born before 1982, the answer is always six plus or minus a year. We used to always let kids out outside with other kids at the age of six or seven, and then I ask just kids born after 1995, and the answer is usually between 10 and 14.”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 13:37 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad
Insight
Haidt: Call-out culture rewards policing single words over critiquing arguments
“But what a call out culture does, and this was Manning and Campbell's point, Is that it incentivizes people. It gives them status for finding errors in the speech of others. And it's remarkable how often that error is a single word. It's not usually the argume…”
Jonathan Haidt Jul 2, 2019 ▶ 34:09 #61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad

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Statements about Jonathan Haidt, by other people (2)

Insight
Simkin: Call-out culture incentivizes finger-pointing regardless of expertise
“The big problem with call out culture is that we're rewarding people just for the call out. That it doesn't matter what their other behavior it is. It doesn't matter what other positions they have, what knowledge they have, what expertise they have. They just …”
Todd Simkin Sep 7, 2021 ▶ 17:55 #119 Todd Simkin: Making Better Decisions
Opinion
Nagoski: Haidt's Purity Foundation explains our moral discomfort around discussing sex
“The Purity Sanctity Foundation isn't just at work in sexuality, but I think it is the most powerful explanation for why we have moral reactions to just a conversation about genitals.”
Emily Nagoski Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 8:16 #66 Dr. Emily Nagoski: Pleasure is the Measure

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#61 Jonathan Haidt: When Good Intentions Go Bad Jul 2, 2019 57m
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