NASA

22 statements across 5 episodes · 5 bullish · 2 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Jul 2, 2017 by Marc Garneau · said 35 times in 8 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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brought up most by Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen (22), Shane Parrish (7), Daniel Gross (2), Scott Page (1), Matthew Dicks (1), Marc Garneau (1), Jason Fried (1)

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2021 27 mentions in 2 episodes 14 per episode
2019 4 mentions in 3 episodes 1 per episode
2018 2 mentions in 1 episode
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Everything said about NASA, oldest first

Jul 2, 2017
Assertion Supported
Garneau: Canada joined NASA space shuttle missions because it built Canadarm
“The reason we were invited to become astronauts and to fly on the space shuttle is because We had designed the robotic arm that is on the space shuttle, and, in fact, part of it was designed here in Montreal, and, ah, the, ah, United States, NASA wanted to tha…”
Marc Garneau Jul 2, 2017 ▶ 6:02 #20 Marc Garneau: The Future of Transportation
Oct 2, 2018
Assertion Partly supported
Gawande: NASA's reporting system shields pilots who report near misses
“NASA also has a protected space where if you submit a report on an error or on a, what they call a near miss, it didn't crash the plane, but it could have, you get a jet, get out of jail free card. So by reporting on it, you are not subject to investigation.”
Dr. Atul Gawande Oct 2, 2018 ▶ 40:10 #42 Atul Gawande: The Path to Perpetual Progress
Apr 16, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Gross: SpaceX was originally a stunt to land a plant on Mars
“SpaceX, I believe, was conceived as the Green Mars Oasis Project, where the idea was it's a very Los Angeles idea we're gonna go buy a bunch of rockets from the Russians, and we're gonna try to launch a bunch of stuff onto Mars, and we're gonna take a photo of…”
Daniel Gross Apr 16, 2019 ▶ 9:02 #56 Daniel Gross: Catalyzing Success
Apr 6, 2021 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Zurbuchen: Rocket launches have a 1.5% to 3% failure rate
“We do leave the launch pad, even though we know it's dangerous. You know, with 1.5 to three percent likelihood, it will not make it out of the Earth's gravity, statistically speaking.”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 46:36 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021
Insight
Zurbuchen: Pressure-testing individuals in reviews reveals team cohesion and mutual support
“I do that often in reviews. I push against one person and see whether the other one comes to rescue them. I want to know, like, do they let them sink? I mean, frankly, I put more edge against one person. Sometimes I apologize at the end. Sometimes it's exactly…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 1:07:30 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zurbuchen: NASA science priorities did not change between Obama and Trump
“Of all agencies in the United States, NASA is perhaps the one that's the least partisan. So, so basically, it's kind of interesting that if you look, I came in under the Obama administration, I worked in the Trump administration, and kind of, if you really loo…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 1:08:42 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 neutral
Disclosure
Zurbuchen: NASA launch decisions require one accountable signature, not a vote
“So I will make the decision that it's one, it's not a vote. It's one decision by one signature. The only signature that matters there for most of these missions is mine, right? Because I take the accountability, right?”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 44:40 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Apr 2058
Dr. Z: Humans will travel to Mars within his lifetime
“I think we will go to Mars with humans in my lifetime, for sure.”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 31:57 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021
Insight
Zurbuchen: Unaddressed near-misses will inevitably turn into project failures
“For me, that almost made a mistake mechanism is so important for big projects. Talk about the almost mistakes, because they surely will be mistakes if you don't fix them. What can we learn from almost mistakes? Also, talk about the mistakes”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 1:06:43 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 negative
Assertion Supported
Zurbuchen: Avoidable James Webb Space Telescope mistakes cost taxpayers $800 million
“During that time, as well as the year before, this team was so, had such challenges that it was making mistakes that cost the taxpayer of the United States, eight hundred million dollars. The mistakes themselves cost six hundred million dollars because of lack…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 1:00:50 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 positive
Opinion
Zurbuchen: SpaceX enhanced NASA's brand rather than detracting from it
“You know, the NASA brand remains one of the top brands in the world, and frankly, SpaceX added to that. They didn't subtract to it, and so for me, it has increased it”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 1:17:04 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021
Assertion Supported
Zurbuchen: NASA repositions spacecraft monthly to dodge orbital debris
“So on an average month, we have One, sometimes multiple almost hits. So sometimes we have to fly a spacecraft away. You know, I have tens of spacecraft that are there operating. We have to move it away to make sure the debris can pass.”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 16:57 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021
Disclosure
Zurbuchen: Replaced entire James Webb project leadership to reset culture
“I frankly, I, we had a team, I basically replaced in my reporting structure, everybody. And the simple reason for that is I wanted to basically create a before and after. I wanted to make sure that the after is one that we are together and we are one, we are l…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 1:07:07 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 neutral
Disclosure
Zurbuchen: NASA told Congress to view CLPS lunar missions as a 50/50 shot
“So what I did is I talked to every stakeholder, Including those on the hill and say, look, the likelihood of that is not a hundred percent. You should think of it as a 50, 50 shot on goal. So we need to, you know, like hockey, we need to take shots on goal to …”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 1:19:15 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 negative
Insight
Zurbuchen: Claiming low risk in space missions signals a manager's incompetence
“What I really hate, if you really want to tick me off, come show up and tell me everything is low risk. That makes me believe you haven't understood your job, right?”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 53:26 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021
Assertion Supported
Dr. Z: Juno Orbit Burn Was Canceled Due to Untested Engine Risk
“So in that room, there were very few people who wanted to fire the engine. But I took the decision to fire the engine, and then we prepared for it. And as we prepared for it, all of a sudden we realized that the engine had a problem. It had a leak. It was some…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 49:22 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021
Insight
Zurbuchen: The hardest part of research is balancing between irrelevant and impossible
“I think the hardest part of research is always to find that edge, right? So kind of, you know, kind of, if you really look at the best research, you know, I think of it like I'm a mountain guy. I think of it as like walking in the mountains on that ridge on th…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 39:37 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 positive
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Dr. Z: Mars Sample Return spacecraft targeted to launch in 2026 and 2027
“And so basically that, that we're going to collect those samples in 26 or 27 our next two spacecraft will take off. One in 26, one in 27, we think, today.”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 30:07 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Apr 6, 2021 positive
Insight
Zurbuchen: NASA must push frontiers and hand mature operations to commercial entities
“Our goal is not that in 50 years the government does the same stuff that we did 50 years ago. That's crazy, especially when it's a research entity like NASA. We want to kind of attack the next frontier. We want to go beyond what's possible today, kind of Incre…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Apr 6, 2021 ▶ 26:29 #108 Thomas Zurbuchen: Adventures in Astrophysics
Dec 21, 2021
Assertion Contradicted
Thomas Zurbuchen: Rocket launches have a 1.5% to 3% failure rate
“You know, with 1.5 to three percent likelihood, it will not make it out of the Earth's gravity, statistically speaking.”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Dec 21, 2021 ▶ 38:28 #127 Best of 2021: Conversations of the Year
Dec 21, 2021
Insight
Thomas Zurbuchen: Pain-averse leaders cause organizations to hide critical risks
“Some leaders don't sleep well if they have problems. You know, so they have pain aversion. It's a big leadership weakness, like, you know, to not be able to carry worries with them, you know, and those worries pulling them down so, you know, that the whole org…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Dec 21, 2021 ▶ 45:40 #127 Best of 2021: Conversations of the Year
Dec 21, 2021
Insight
Thomas Zurbuchen: Claiming aerospace projects are low-risk exposes your incompetence
“What I really hate, if you really want to tick me off, come show up and tell me everything is low risk. That makes me believe you haven't understood your job, right? Don't make me laugh. Don't make me feel good. Make me feel scared and then make me feel comfor…”
Dr. Thomas Zurbuchen Dec 21, 2021 ▶ 45:12 #127 Best of 2021: Conversations of the Year
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