“We didn't know before we started. If podcasting and later audio books would be cannibalistic to the other media types or not, but it turns out it's not.”
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Opinion
Competing streaming services report higher per-stream payouts because their engagement is lower
“So these other companies have higher per stream because they have a worse product.”
Gustav SöderströmMay 20, 2025▶ 1:04:33Spotify’s Journey To Profitability · Invest Like The Best
PredictionNot checkable as stated
Most consumer products will become conversational interfaces within five to ten years
“And I think if you fast forward five to 10 years, almost all big consumer products are going to be a conversation to some extent, rather than this service that you use.”
Gustav SöderströmMay 20, 2025▶ 6:04Spotify’s Journey To Profitability · Invest Like The Best
PredictionNot checkable as stated
AI's impact on non-coding engineering tasks will exceed code generation
“But then the really interesting side is these other seven hours, what a developer does, which is a lot of communication, planning, working with designers, prototyping meetings. Those things I think will actually have as big or even more impact than the coding …”
Gustav SöderströmMay 20, 2025▶ 7:54Spotify’s Journey To Profitability · Invest Like The Best
Disclosure
Spotify adopted the Chinese super-app model to combat declining app store installs
“Our entire strategy is basically, we decided this many years ago before it was popular, but you saw the Chinese app, the Chinese starting to build super apps, whereas the Western world built one app per use case. We kind of adopted the Chinese super app idea a…”
Gustav SöderströmMay 20, 2025▶ 28:57Spotify’s Journey To Profitability · Invest Like The Best
Insight
Enterprise AI adoption primarily requires traditional API engineering, not AI engineering
“And actually, so actually my biggest job to enable AI is not AI engineering. It's old school engineering, exposing all this, these, this data that we have so that you can have a reasoning engine reason for you as a product person, or actually for me as a consu…”
Gustav SöderströmMay 20, 2025▶ 33:50Spotify’s Journey To Profitability · Invest Like The Best
Opinion
AI currently delivers only a disappointing 7% developer speedup in big tech
“I've seen studies from other big companies that if you actually measure out of a developer's time, this, the speed up is like seven percent or something, which sounds very disappointing because of all these things, like the net new coding is a small part, net …”
Gustav SöderströmMay 20, 2025▶ 37:36Spotify’s Journey To Profitability · Invest Like The Best
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