Ladder

8 statements across 1 episodes · 3 bullish · 2 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Jan 13, 2026 by Tom Deegan · said 59 times in 1 episodes since 2026 · across every show →

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Jan 13, 2026 negative
Opinion
Deegan: Founders should avoid raising capital from friends and family
“So I should have learned that lesson and said, I need to not raise money from friends and family. Instead, they were the only people at that moment that I needed to double and triple down. You just had to go even further all in. Not sure I would do it again or…”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 11:29 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
Jan 13, 2026
Insight
Deegan: Fundraising during a pivot relies on selling conviction, not product
“One of the biggest lessons, particularly from that moment is like selling people on like your conviction in that moment, we were selling both like the product that we were about to shut down, but we didn't really even have visuals yet for the new product. So i…”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 18:44 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
Jan 13, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Deegan: Ladder is now cash-flow positive and entirely self-sustaining
“Our business now generates cash. It sustains itself.”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 1:10:16 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
Jan 13, 2026 negative
Insight
Deegan: Scaling personal training marketplaces requires automating away human trainers
“What we'd come to find out is that business would be very, Operationally complex difficult to scale. You know, ultimately, as you scale that business, it starts to look more like a call center, and you'd be inclined to start to automate away the very human you…”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 7:10 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
Jan 13, 2026
Insight
Deegan: Startups can will outcomes, but finance cannot will returns
“Because in the hedge fund space, I can promise you in the finance world, that's not possible. You can't just like will hedge fund returns. I think Bernie Madoff tried to do that and it doesn't work.”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 9:16 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
Jan 13, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Deegan: 5,000 Ladder users completed an hour-long annual survey in two days
“We sent our annual survey out This year we'll, we'll get, you know, we had 5000 responses that take an hour on average is what people are spending. We already have 5000 responses in the last two days. And they're answering 230 of our, like, most, you know, bur…”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 55:16 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
Jan 13, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Deegan: Pre-2020 fitness tech ignored dedicated strength training enthusiasts
“All of the innovation in the space was focused on the casual fitness consumer. We were noticing that it was all very cardio based, and we saw that this fitness enthusiast customer was really, they were being ignored, strength training in particular. There was …”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 7:31 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
Jan 13, 2026 bullish
Insight
Deegan: GLP-1 adoption is a massive macro tailwind for strength training platforms
“All the science would support that you need a strength training plan alongside your GLP one to, you know, you're at risk of so much muscle loss. So we think that's actually a, you know, kind of macro tailwind and something that will help us.”
Tom Deegan Jan 13, 2026 ▶ 56:24 How Ladder Became #1 Strength Training App · Invest Like The Best
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