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Nick Green: VCs would have vetoed Thrive Market's early sustainability practices
“The other big benefit was that had we had VCs they didn't care about the mission. So their focus would be, how do you make the business model work? And I think they would have looked at that in a very short term way. The influencers cared only about the missio…”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 32:12 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Insight
Nick Green: The SAT is a beatable game, not a test of intelligence
“The SAT is a game. It can be beaten. It's not about how smart you are. It's about how smart you get at that test.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 6:29 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Insight
Nick Green: Passive income and quitting work proved unfulfilling and lonely
“What I thought I wanted when I sold the company, which was create income automation and kind of do whatever I want. It just wasn't fulfilling. I felt rudderless. I felt I felt lonely. And it was very interesting to see that the things I didn't think I valued a…”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 12:48 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Insight
Nick Green: Limited retail assortment improves discovery and retailer economics
“They have an order of magnitude fewer items in there, which actually creates for a better discovery process. And of course creates for better economics on their side.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 18:50 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Opinion
Nick Green: Outsourcing Thrive Market's early tech build was a complete disaster
“We thought we knew what we needed, but the reality is we didn't. And we probably didn't pick the right partner. So kind of on every level, we set ourselves up for failure. And in retrospect, predictably it was a complete train wreck.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 22:36 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Nick Green: 50% of Americans lack driving-distance access to Whole Foods
“50% of people in this country don't live within driving distance of a Whole Foods, and even more of them can't afford the premiums, even if they do.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 27:00 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Nick Green: Thrive Market reached roughly $30M in revenue in year one
“I think it was in the thirty million dollar range, so tens of millions of dollars.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 36:12 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Investors ridiculed Thrive Market's $15M first-year revenue projection
“We had gotten just ridiculed left and right by investors when we went out with our projections, and I think our projections had us doing fifteen million in the first year.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 36:20 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Nick Green: Thrive Market lost money on every order at launch
“At the time we were actually losing money on each order that went out the door, which means the more that you grow, the more money you lose.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 37:39 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Nick Green: Thrive Market was burning over $1M per month early on
“I mean, at that point we were burning more than a million dollars a month, and so that was a challenge.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 38:15 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Insight
Nick Green: Early-stage VCs chase explosive growth over unit economics
“And I think VCs, especially that early stage, when they see that you've got a tiger by the tail in terms of growth, they want in.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 41:07 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Thrive Market halted influencer marketing at a $100M run rate
“At a certain point, we had to sort of tell them to stop promoting. Because we couldn't handle the volume. So we were at that point just operationally really compromised, and as the business sort of continued to grow, we were approaching a hundred million dolla…”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 46:51 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Nick Green: Thrive Market's top acquisition channel is unpaid member referrals
“So, you know, our number one acquisition channel today is unpaid. It's referral. It's members telling members.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 48:50 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Green: Thrive Market is profitable and operating cash flow positive
“Yeah, so we're running the business profitably, operating cash flow positive, and back at that, those early days, you know, we were losing money on every order.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 51:46 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Disclosure
Green: Thrive Market sees no need to sell to a larger company
“I think we see a really clear path as a standalone business. The membership renewal rates are over 70%. We're still bringing in new members at a really rapid clip. And we're still very early in that journey, so we don't see any need to become part of a larger …”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 52:13 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nick Green generated low seven-figures from Ivy Insiders while in college
“We were doing in the low seven figures. And, you know, the profitability was, it was in the hundreds of thousand dollars”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 9:51 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Insight
Nick Green: The retail club trifecta requires curation, membership, and private label
“So the pillars of curated assortment membership model to enable better pricing, And then private label to cut out steps in the supply chain and introduce higher quality products that are also better pricing. That was kind of the trifecta.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 19:14 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sasha Siddhartha rebuilt the failed Thrive Market platform in 10 weeks
“He in about 10 weeks built for a fraction of the funds what we had failed to build over the prior, you know, four to six months.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 25:24 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Thrive Market was rejected by every VC pitched across SF, NY, and LA
“We went to a bunch of VCs in San Francisco. We took a trip out to New York. We visited every VC that we could find in LA, and we got intros to most of them through Launchpad, and we were rejected every single time.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 26:17 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Contradicted
Thrive Market raised $1.5M in seed funding from health influencers
“So we raised a million and a half in the seed round.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 31:20 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Thrive Market's first influencer promotion drove orders from 48 states in 24 hours
“She's in her mid-twenties, and she wrote a post about Thrive, and within 24 hours, we had orders coming in from All 48 states in the continental US.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 35:30 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Supported
Green: Thrive Market raised $30 million after initial VC rejections
“And so we raised thirty million dollars.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 40:49 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Green: Thrive Market's valuation increased 20x in six months
“The valuation was 20 times higher than it had been six months earlier.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 42:03 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Thrive Market got stuck with $1.5M in excess coconut oil inventory
“It costs a lot, especially when we had to shut down the coconut oil program a few months later and got stuck with a million and a half dollars of coconut oil inventory.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 43:42 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Green: Thrive Market private label rapidly reached 15% of sales
“So one of the first things we did there, what, and like maybe one of the only good decisions we made at that stage of the business was to start working on private label. And so that rapidly grew to, you know, 15% of our sales.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 44:18 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Insight
Green: Hypergrowth hiring causes severe organizational damage
“When you hire that quickly, you can't integrate people effectively. You make mistakes in hiring in terms of fit. And that really caused us to suffer because it's a lot easier to hire people than to fire them.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 45:56 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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Nick Green: Thrive Market surpassed half a billion dollars in 2023 sales
“Well over half a billion in sales last year.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 51:22 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Nick Green: Thrive Market membership renewal rates exceed 70%
“The membership renewal rates are over 70%.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 52:16 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Supported
Nick Green: Dry, shelf-stable assortment accounts for half of grocery purchases
“So we decided, let's focus on the dry assortment. That's half of what people buy in the grocery store anyway.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 20:08 Thrive Market: Nick Green
Assertion Supported
Nick Green: Thrive Market membership has always been $60
“60 dollars at the beginning, 60 dollars today.”
Nick Green Aug 12, 2024 ▶ 35:52 Thrive Market: Nick Green
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