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Insight
Poneman: Running Sub Pop was easier broke than funded
“In some ways it was much easier to run the label with no money than it became when we had some money.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 1:07:17 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Disclosure
Poneman: Warner deal proceeds went directly to the founders, not Sub Pop
“Similarly, the deal was done with Bruce and myself, singularly. It was not done with SubPop, so the money went directly to Bruce and myself.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 1:08:37 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Assertion Contradicted
Poneman: Sub Pop pioneered direct COD retail sales for US indie labels
“And at the time, independent record labels weren't doing this in the United States. We all figured that we needed to have a relationship with a distributor to get our records into the stores. But Bruce and I picked up the phone, and we decided to start selling…”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 33:28 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Poneman: Kurt Cobain regularly insisted Nirvana should sell a million records
“Kurt would Tell me regularly. We should be selling a million of these. And I'd be going, you don't understand, you know.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 52:54 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Poneman: Post-Nirvana, we paid $150k for bands that previously cost $2k
“Well, there were bands who, before Nirvana had their explosive success, we would have signed for 2000 dollars. In one particular case, I signed one of those bands for 150,000 dollars.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 1:15:23 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Poneman: 'Grunge' as a cultural gestalt will outlast the era's bands
“There are few things that I think are going to stand the test of time than the word grunge. I think a lot of these bands will long be forgotten, but that word grunge and the Style, and time, and gestalt. You know, everything that it summons will stay.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 37:29 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Poneman: Krist Novoselic demanded a recording contract by banging on Pavitt's windows
“One evening, Chris Novoselic went over to Bruce's house and started banging on the windows, demanding a recording contract.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 46:13 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Assertion Supported
Poneman: The Postal Service's 'Give Up' is Sub Pop's second best-selling album
“Second best-selling.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 1:18:46 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Disclosure
Poneman: Invested $10,000 in childhood savings bonds to fund Sub Pop
“There were savings bonds. And there was around nine or 10,000 dollars.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 25:06 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Disclosure
Poneman: Early Sub Pop funding relied on pitching personal connections on hype
“Bruce and I basically hit up everybody we knew for money at one point or the other, and it was a business proposition that was driven by hype.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 27:53 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
Opinion
Poneman: Mudhoney remains Sub Pop's ultimate flagship house band
“Mudhoney ended up becoming, and still is to this day, the ultimate, or the flagship, or they're the sub-pop house band.”
Jonathan Poneman Jun 1, 2020 ▶ 31:33 Sub Pop Records: Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman
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