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Assertion Not checkable as stated
Incoming Cisco CEO John Morgridge told Lerner she was 'everything wrong'
“Yeah, and he denies it, but I will swear on the lives of my cats, the first thing he said to me was, I hear you're everything that's wrong with Cisco.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 32:38 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Disclosure
Founders sold all Cisco stock due to zero respect for management
“Len and I agreed to sell our stock on a very joint basis, and we did it because we fundamentally had no respect for people running the company. And it wasn't really that we didn't believe in the company. I mean, I was the one who said that Cisco would be a bil…”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 52:24 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Supported
Cisco CEO John Morgridge abruptly fired co-founder Sandy Lerner six months post-IPO
“I was sitting in my little office in the corner, as I did every day, and he came in, and he sat down in the chair without making an appointment, and he said, ah, you know, I think it's time you retire. He says, you've got all this money now, you just, time to …”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 36:11 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Incoming CEO Morgridge told Lerner she was everything wrong with Cisco
“Yeah, and he denies it, but I will swear on the lives of my cats, the first thing he said to me was, I hear you're everything that's wrong with Cisco.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 32:28 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Opinion
Lerner: It was probably time for Bosack and me to leave Cisco
“Yeah, it was probably time for me to go. It was probably time for Lem to go. We're just not good people in a collaborative environment.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 39:56 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Disclosure
Lerner and Bosack sold all Cisco stock out of disrespect for management
“Len and I agreed to sell our stock on a very joint basis, and we did it because we fundamentally had no respect for people running the company, and it wasn't really that we didn't believe in the company.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 51:25 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Supported
Don Valentine invested $2.6 million for massive Cisco equity and control
“He gave us 2.6 million dollars, and Len and I got about 30%, but remember, he was the chairman of the board of the company, and he got stock from that, and all of his friends got stock.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 31:41 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Supported
Sequoia imposed four-year vesting despite Cisco booking $250,000 a month
“Len and I walked into a four-year vesting plan after funding the company for three years, clearly a mezzanine investment. We're making, we're booking a quarter million dollars a month at that point.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 31:20 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Supported
Cisco founders threatened PR disaster post-IPO to recover full unvested equity
“We ended up getting it back, but only because it would have looked very bad for the stock six months after when both of the founders walk out, and you can't tar and feather the other one with, girls don't know how to play on a team.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 38:40 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Contradicted
Stanford refused to license federally funded router technology, Lerner says
“Stanford said, no, you cannot license this technology. They would not entertain any licensing. We had done our part, and we had taken the government's money. This is all public domain. We'd invented all of these wonderful things, but the Office of Technology L…”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 18:30 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Early venture capitalists believed public network protocols could not be monetized
“The investor community, which was a whole bunch of old, you know, Fairchild semiconductor salesmen, they didn't think that you could make any money on a public protocol because, of course, everybody would do it.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 27:28 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Supported
Lerner: Co-founder Len Bosack resigned from Cisco in solidarity
“And so Len, I think you probably could have knocked over both Valentine and everybody else like little bowling pins when Len walked up there and walked out with me.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 38:24 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Not checkable as stated
VCs rejected Cisco believing public networking protocols had no commercial value
“And the problem was that, you know, at this point, the investor community, which was a whole bunch of old, you know, Fairchild semiconductor salesmen, they didn't think that you could make any money on a public protocol because, of course, everybody would do i…”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 27:19 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Opinion
Lerner: Older Silicon Valley VCs could not relate to female founders
“First of all, there was a woman founder, and they're all 60 or 70. They just didn't know how to relate to a woman In business”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 27:57 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Supported
Sequoia's Don Valentine invested $2.6M in Cisco, leaving founders with just 30%
“He gave us 2.6 million dollars, and Len and I got about 30%, but remember, he was the chairman of the board of the company, and he got stock from that, and all of his friends got stock.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 31:30 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cisco survived multiple near-collapses through sheer luck, Lerner says
“There were so many times that company could have gone under, and we were saved by circumstances out of our control. So there was huge luck in there.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 52:49 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Supported
Cisco settled Stanford IP claims with royalties and network maintenance
“We ended up paying them, I think, a very fair royalty for the first, gosh, I want to say three million dollars a product or something. Very fair royalty. And we had to fix their network for three years.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 22:44 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Disclosure
Lerner and Bosack placed 70% of Cisco proceeds into charity
“Remember that right after that, Len and I put 70% of the proceeds into charitable vehicles.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 40:41 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Contradicted
Lerner: Stanford refused to license early router technology
“But Stanford said, no, you cannot license this technology. They would not entertain any licensing. We had done our part, and we had taken the government's money. This is all public domain. We'd invented all of these wonderful things, but the Office of Technolo…”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 18:22 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Partly supported
Lerner: Cisco settled with Stanford via product royalties and 3-year network maintenance
“We ended up paying them, I think, a very fair royalty for the first Gosh, I want to say three million dollars a product or something. Very fair royalty. And we had to fix their network for three years.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 22:35 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Green: A $20K Cisco sponsorship made the first VidCon profitable
“I remember the actual difference between making money and not making money that first year was that I said on a Vlogbrothers video, if anybody knows anybody who would like to sponsor an online video convention, please email me. And the daughter of an executive…”
Hank and John Green Jan 16, 2023 ▶ 49:44 Complexly: Hank and John Green
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Major 1990s tech companies had no solution for incoming customer emails
“When we made those calls out to these other companies, nobody had a solution. Nobody was, they all had a huge problem.”
Mark Gainey May 2, 2022 ▶ 25:01 Strava: Mark Gainey and Michael Horvath
Assertion Supported
Early Cisco booked $250,000 monthly without a dedicated sales force
“With no sales force, we were booking a quarter million dollars a month.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 23:44 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cisco was the 36th name attempted for the networking company
“Cisco was actually the 36th name that we tried to get. Anything having to do with computers, we couldn't have.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 20:19 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cisco pitched 70 to 80 venture investors in early fundraising efforts
“We went through about 70 or 80 of them.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 27:24 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Disclosure
Lerner: Bosack and Lerner donated 70% of Cisco exit proceeds
“Remember that right after that, Len and I put 70% of the proceeds into charitable vehicles.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 41:36 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Supported
Lerner: Cisco booked $250K monthly by 1987 without a sales team
“By 1987, with no sales force, we were booking a quarter million dollars a month.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 23:34 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lerner: Cisco pitched 70 to 80 venture investors before raising funding
“We went through about 70 or 80 of them.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 27:15 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Cisco's first three customers were HP Labs, Rutgers, and Boeing
“Our first customer was Hewlett Packard Laboratories. The second one was Rutgers University. Third one was Boeing.”
Sandy Lerner May 10, 2021 ▶ 23:50 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner (2018)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lerner: Cisco was the 36th company name attempted
“Cisco was actually the 36th name that we tried to get. Anything having to do with computers, we couldn't have.”
Sandy Lerner Oct 1, 2018 ▶ 20:11 Cisco Systems & Urban Decay: Sandy Lerner
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