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Jovial refuses outside funding, financing all expansion strictly through cash flow

Carla Bartolucci · Jovial Foods: Carla Bartolucci · Jun 7, 2021 · at 1:10:01

Carla Bartolucci, founder of organic food brand Jovial Foods, explains why she refused outside investment and paced growth deliberately.

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“I don't spend money unless I have it, so if I want to do a project, I make sure that we make the money that we need to cover it, because you can choose what supermarkets or chains or whatever you present to. You don't have to say yes to everybody.”

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