Kalin: Maria Thomas was the wrong fit for Etsy CEO due to culture mismatch
Rob Kalin · Etsy: Rob Kalin · Oct 30, 2023 · at 53:18
Etsy co-founder Rob Kalin reflects on hiring and stepping aside for former NPR executive Maria Thomas as CEO in 2008.
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“Looking back on it, it's quite easy to see like, you know, that culture piece was too important to be a mismatch at that phase of Etsy's growth. And so she ended up not being the right fit in that role.”
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