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Aug 15, 2020 · 19m · how-i-built-this

How I Built Resilience: Samantha Bee of Full Frontal with Samantha Bee

Samantha Bee · 13m spoken Guy Raz · 4m spoken
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In this episode of NPR's 'How I Built This: Resilience Edition,' host Guy Raz speaks with late-night host Samantha Bee about adapting 'Full Frontal' during quarantine through DIY backyard production, remote staff leadership, and creative resilience.

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Guy as informed peer 1.4 Guest teaching 0.9 Guest disagreement 0.4 Guy pushing back 0.1
05100:0010:000:52–3:02 · Guy as informed peer 1/10 Storm Outages and Obstacles to Studio Return Guy Raz asks open-ended questions about studio logistics and team management. Samantha Bee explains the logistical hurdles of sharing studio space with John Oliver and Dr. Oz while managing a 70-person remote staff.3:02–5:40 · Guy as informed peer 1/10 Evacuation and the Pivot to DIY Backyard Filming Raz prompts Bee to recount the initial COVID-19 shutdown. Bee describes panic packing, testing backyard filming with natural sunlight, and using an iPad teleprompter.5:40–8:00 · Guy as informed peer 1/10 Performing Without an Audience and Family Crew Dynamics Raz asks how Bee copes with performing without a live audience. Bee clarifies that her sketch background and early Daily Show experience mean she does not rely on audience feedback to maintain comedic rhythm.8:00–11:16 · Guy as informed peer 1/10 The Strains and Awkwardness of Virtual Meetings The conversation explores the fatigue of video meetings and production pipeline adjustments. Bee details having to shift taping to Tuesdays to allow extensive editing time, losing the traditional Wednesday rewrite sprint.11:16–13:58 · Guy as informed peer 1/10 Mid-Show Station Break and Upcoming Topics Following the mid-show break, Raz inquires about Bee's emotional stamina and her rationale for launching a podcast. Bee shares her affinity for long-form interviews unconstrained by a 21-minute broadcast format.13:59–16:13 · Guy as informed peer 2/10 Critique of Social Media and Facebook's Global Impact Raz brings up Bee's prior interview with Jelani Cobb regarding social media platforms. Bee forcefully critiques Facebook for acting like a de facto government in developing nations and inflicting widespread societal damage.16:14–18:57 · Guy as informed peer 3/10 Future Outlook of the Television Industry Raz references insight from UTA's Jeremy Zimmer regarding impending television content shortages and asks for industry silver linings. Bee rejects the optimistic framing for the wider industry, warning of cost-cutting and low-quality reality programming.0:52–3:02 · Guest teaching 1/10 Storm Outages and Obstacles to Studio Return Guy Raz asks open-ended questions about studio logistics and team management. Samantha Bee explains the logistical hurdles of sharing studio space with John Oliver and Dr. Oz while managing a 70-person remote staff.3:02–5:40 · Guest teaching 0/10 Evacuation and the Pivot to DIY Backyard Filming Raz prompts Bee to recount the initial COVID-19 shutdown. Bee describes panic packing, testing backyard filming with natural sunlight, and using an iPad teleprompter.5:40–8:00 · Guest teaching 1/10 Performing Without an Audience and Family Crew Dynamics Raz asks how Bee copes with performing without a live audience. Bee clarifies that her sketch background and early Daily Show experience mean she does not rely on audience feedback to maintain comedic rhythm.8:00–11:16 · Guest teaching 1/10 The Strains and Awkwardness of Virtual Meetings The conversation explores the fatigue of video meetings and production pipeline adjustments. Bee details having to shift taping to Tuesdays to allow extensive editing time, losing the traditional Wednesday rewrite sprint.11:16–13:58 · Guest teaching 0/10 Mid-Show Station Break and Upcoming Topics Following the mid-show break, Raz inquires about Bee's emotional stamina and her rationale for launching a podcast. Bee shares her affinity for long-form interviews unconstrained by a 21-minute broadcast format.13:59–16:13 · Guest teaching 1/10 Critique of Social Media and Facebook's Global Impact Raz brings up Bee's prior interview with Jelani Cobb regarding social media platforms. Bee forcefully critiques Facebook for acting like a de facto government in developing nations and inflicting widespread societal damage.16:14–18:57 · Guest teaching 2/10 Future Outlook of the Television Industry Raz references insight from UTA's Jeremy Zimmer regarding impending television content shortages and asks for industry silver linings. Bee rejects the optimistic framing for the wider industry, warning of cost-cutting and low-quality reality programming.0:52–3:02 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Storm Outages and Obstacles to Studio Return Guy Raz asks open-ended questions about studio logistics and team management. Samantha Bee explains the logistical hurdles of sharing studio space with John Oliver and Dr. Oz while managing a 70-person remote staff.3:02–5:40 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Evacuation and the Pivot to DIY Backyard Filming Raz prompts Bee to recount the initial COVID-19 shutdown. Bee describes panic packing, testing backyard filming with natural sunlight, and using an iPad teleprompter.5:40–8:00 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Performing Without an Audience and Family Crew Dynamics Raz asks how Bee copes with performing without a live audience. Bee clarifies that her sketch background and early Daily Show experience mean she does not rely on audience feedback to maintain comedic rhythm.8:00–11:16 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Strains and Awkwardness of Virtual Meetings The conversation explores the fatigue of video meetings and production pipeline adjustments. Bee details having to shift taping to Tuesdays to allow extensive editing time, losing the traditional Wednesday rewrite sprint.11:16–13:58 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Mid-Show Station Break and Upcoming Topics Following the mid-show break, Raz inquires about Bee's emotional stamina and her rationale for launching a podcast. Bee shares her affinity for long-form interviews unconstrained by a 21-minute broadcast format.13:59–16:13 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Critique of Social Media and Facebook's Global Impact Raz brings up Bee's prior interview with Jelani Cobb regarding social media platforms. Bee forcefully critiques Facebook for acting like a de facto government in developing nations and inflicting widespread societal damage.16:14–18:57 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Future Outlook of the Television Industry Raz references insight from UTA's Jeremy Zimmer regarding impending television content shortages and asks for industry silver linings. Bee rejects the optimistic framing for the wider industry, warning of cost-cutting and low-quality reality programming.0:52–3:02 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Storm Outages and Obstacles to Studio Return Guy Raz asks open-ended questions about studio logistics and team management. Samantha Bee explains the logistical hurdles of sharing studio space with John Oliver and Dr. Oz while managing a 70-person remote staff.3:02–5:40 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Evacuation and the Pivot to DIY Backyard Filming Raz prompts Bee to recount the initial COVID-19 shutdown. Bee describes panic packing, testing backyard filming with natural sunlight, and using an iPad teleprompter.5:40–8:00 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Performing Without an Audience and Family Crew Dynamics Raz asks how Bee copes with performing without a live audience. Bee clarifies that her sketch background and early Daily Show experience mean she does not rely on audience feedback to maintain comedic rhythm.8:00–11:16 · Guy pushing back 0/10 The Strains and Awkwardness of Virtual Meetings The conversation explores the fatigue of video meetings and production pipeline adjustments. Bee details having to shift taping to Tuesdays to allow extensive editing time, losing the traditional Wednesday rewrite sprint.11:16–13:58 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Mid-Show Station Break and Upcoming Topics Following the mid-show break, Raz inquires about Bee's emotional stamina and her rationale for launching a podcast. Bee shares her affinity for long-form interviews unconstrained by a 21-minute broadcast format.13:59–16:13 · Guy pushing back 0/10 Critique of Social Media and Facebook's Global Impact Raz brings up Bee's prior interview with Jelani Cobb regarding social media platforms. Bee forcefully critiques Facebook for acting like a de facto government in developing nations and inflicting widespread societal damage.16:14–18:57 · Guy pushing back 1/10 Future Outlook of the Television Industry Raz references insight from UTA's Jeremy Zimmer regarding impending television content shortages and asks for industry silver linings. Bee rejects the optimistic framing for the wider industry, warning of cost-cutting and low-quality reality programming.

speaking balance: gold is Guy, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Guy 27.9% · guest 72.1%0:00 · Guy 27.9% · guest 72.1%3:00 · Guy 13.8% · guest 86.2%3:00 · Guy 13.8% · guest 86.2%6:00 · Guy 11.9% · guest 88.1%6:00 · Guy 11.9% · guest 88.1%9:00 · Guy 33.1% · guest 66.9%9:00 · Guy 33.1% · guest 66.9%12:00 · Guy 21% · guest 79%12:00 · Guy 21% · guest 79%15:00 · Guy 24.9% · guest 75.1%15:00 · Guy 24.9% · guest 75.1%18:00 · Guy 52.5% · guest 47.5%18:00 · Guy 52.5% · guest 47.5%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 17:18 Skepticism on industry optimism

Bee pushes back on Raz's optimistic prompt about positive industry-wide changes, bluntly noting that ad revenue losses will likely produce cheap, lower-quality television.

 Hardest push from Guy ▶ 18:32 Pivoting to personal silver linings

Raz gently steers back after Bee dismisses broader industry optimism by highlighting the tangible technical skills she and her team acquired.

 Biggest teaching moment ▶ 14:17 Facebook's international impact

Bee educates the audience on the profound geopolitical footprint of Facebook in international markets where it functions as an unchallenged public utility and news source.

 Guy holds their own ▶ 16:13 Industry analysis via agency sources

Raz displays deep industry context by citing UTA chief Jeremy Zimmer to outline the macroeconomic halt in television production and impending broadcast shortages.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicGuy as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementGuy pushing backWhy
Storm Outages and Obstacles to Studio Return 1100 Guy Raz asks open-ended questions about studio logistics and team management. Samantha Bee explains the logistical hurdles of sharing studio space with John Oliver and Dr. Oz while managing a 70-person remote staff.
Evacuation and the Pivot to DIY Backyard Filming 1000 Raz prompts Bee to recount the initial COVID-19 shutdown. Bee describes panic packing, testing backyard filming with natural sunlight, and using an iPad teleprompter.
Performing Without an Audience and Family Crew Dynamics 1100 Raz asks how Bee copes with performing without a live audience. Bee clarifies that her sketch background and early Daily Show experience mean she does not rely on audience feedback to maintain comedic rhythm.
The Strains and Awkwardness of Virtual Meetings 1100 The conversation explores the fatigue of video meetings and production pipeline adjustments. Bee details having to shift taping to Tuesdays to allow extensive editing time, losing the traditional Wednesday rewrite sprint.
Mid-Show Station Break and Upcoming Topics 1000 Following the mid-show break, Raz inquires about Bee's emotional stamina and her rationale for launching a podcast. Bee shares her affinity for long-form interviews unconstrained by a 21-minute broadcast format.
Critique of Social Media and Facebook's Global Impact 2110 Raz brings up Bee's prior interview with Jelani Cobb regarding social media platforms. Bee forcefully critiques Facebook for acting like a de facto government in developing nations and inflicting widespread societal damage.
Future Outlook of the Television Industry 3221 Raz references insight from UTA's Jeremy Zimmer regarding impending television content shortages and asks for industry silver linings. Bee rejects the optimistic framing for the wider industry, warning of cost-cutting and low-quality reality programming.

Statements from this episode (7)

Assertion Supported
Full Frontal Shares Studio Space With John Oliver and Dr. Oz
“We literally share our studio space with John Oliver's show and Dr. Oz show, and so it's much more difficult. We don't control our own environment, so it's going to be very difficult for us to go back to the studio”
Samantha Bee Aug 15, 2020 ▶ 1:47
Assertion Supported
Samantha Bee Proved Backyard iPhone Footage Was Broadcast-Quality to TBS
“We just started shooting stuff, and it really turned out to be a proof of concept to the network that we could shoot in our backyard, and that it would look good, and that it could be broadcast quality, even though it's shot on an iPhone.”
Samantha Bee Aug 15, 2020 ▶ 4:35
Disclosure
Samantha Bee Prefers Staff Keep Microphones Unmuted During Video Meetings
“Lots of people mute their microphones because they're like rattling bags, or they have kids who are homeschooling, and it's nice, and it's respectful, but at some point I was like, please stop muting. I'd really rather hear the crunching bag or something than …”
Samantha Bee Aug 15, 2020 ▶ 8:59
Assertion Supported
Samantha Bee: Full Frontal shifted taping to Tuesdays due to remote editing
“So adjusting the show, we now tape, we have to tape on Tuesday because the edit process takes an immense amount of time. It's a totally different experience of editing. So we have to do it a day before.”
Samantha Bee Aug 15, 2020 ▶ 10:22
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Samantha Bee: Full Frontal Cuts 30-Minute Interviews to Five Minutes
“The show itself, the entirety of the show is 21 minutes. So when I interview someone, we talk for half an hour, and then we end up using five minutes of that whole conversation.”
Samantha Bee Aug 15, 2020 ▶ 13:25
Opinion
Samantha Bee: Facebook has caused immense damage globally and should be deleted
“Boy, I would I would just delete Facebook. I mean, I never was a Facebook person, but it's just done so much damage, not just in our own country, but across the world.”
Samantha Bee Aug 15, 2020 ▶ 14:17
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Samantha Bee Predicts TV Networks Will Shift to Cheaper Reality Programming
“They've lost so much ad revenue. They're probably going to try and start making shows more cheaply, and that doesn't necessarily mean that they will be great. There'll be a lot of reality in our lives for the next little while.”
Samantha Bee Aug 15, 2020 ▶ 17:53
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