Mar 2, 2026 · 1h 0m · how-i-built-this
Kettle Chips: Cameron Healy. The Wild Bet That Made a Brand
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In this episode of 'How I Built This,' entrepreneur Cameron Healy details the founding and growth of Kettle Chips and Kona Brewing Company. He reflects on navigating early manufacturing crises, taking speculative commodity risks, and executing an audacious UK expansion that propelled his craft snack brand to a $320 million acquisition.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Guy holds 40.4% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Guy as informed peer 4.3 Guest teaching 3.3 Guest disagreement 1.5 Guy pushing back 1.9
speaking balance: gold is Guy, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 34:20 Embracing strategic naivety
Cameron counter-frames Guy's critique of his UK expansion by asserting that rational business plans often fail because without naivety, no entrepreneur would take necessary leaps.
Hardest push from Guy ▶ 33:25 Challenging the UK expansion rationaleGuy vigorously challenges Cameron's decision to jump 5,000 miles to Britain when Kettle was merely a $4.5 million regional brand without standard national US distribution.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 15:15 The Maui potato origin revelationCameron educates Guy by revealing the famous Maui potato chips were made with potatoes imported from Klamath Falls, Oregon, proving the concept could be done at home.
Guy holds their own ▶ 17:22 Guy breaks down industrial chip manufacturingGuy demonstrates his own research into food science by contrasting industrial conveyor-belt continuous-frying with artisan kettle batch-cooking.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Guy as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Guy pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1970s Counterculture, Sikh Community, and Early Distribution | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Guy Raz sets the historical scene and prompts Cameron about his Sikh communal lifestyle and early natural foods trucking route. Cameron reflects openly on his dismissal from the commune with no tension or pushback. | |
| Launching NS Khalsa and the Peanut Market Speculation | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Cameron explains launching NS Khalsa, bribing a banker with ski passes for working capital, and speculating on peanut futures during a drought. Guy listens enthusiastically and guides the timeline. | |
| Maui Inspiration and Sourcing Oregon Potatoes | 4 | 5 | 2 | 1 | Guy presents a romanticized version of Cameron getting inspired by homemade chips on a Hawaiian beach. Cameron politely dispels the myth, revealing he tracked down the Maui chip maker and discovered the potatoes actually came from Oregon. | |
| Early Kettle Production and the Safeway Rancid Oil Crisis | 5 | 4 | 1 | 2 | Guy demonstrates technical knowledge regarding continuous-fry versus small-batch frying, while Cameron details potato sugar caramelization and the near-fatal company crisis when Safeway rejected rancid batches. | |
| Exploring the British Crisp Market and Launching in London | 6 | 3 | 3 | 6 | Guy challenges the strategic sanity of a small regional Oregon brand leaping straight to the UK rather than expanding domestically. Cameron cheerfully admits it was naive and partly driven by his personal desire to visit Europe. | |
| UK Viral Explosion and Supermarket Breakthrough | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Guy and Cameron discuss the rapid viral expansion in the UK spurred by Princess Diana, organic PR, and premium pricing strategy before leveraging those lessons back to the US market. | |
| Expanding into Craft Beer with Kona Brewing Company | 5 | 4 | 1 | 2 | Guy questions the logistical complexity and high manufacturing costs of starting Kona Brewing in Hawaii while managing Kettle Chips. Cameron clarifies the multi-year struggle before shifting bottling to the mainland and reaching profitability in 1999. | |
| Private Equity Partnership and Multi-Million Dollar Exit | 4 | 2 | 2 | 1 | Cameron details partnering with private equity firm Catterton and selling to Lion Capital for over $300 million, explaining why he and Tim refused to sit in the 'back of the bus' under aggressive new management. |
Statements from this episode (16)
Healy: Only borrowed money from father once to launch distribution truck
“I talked my father into loaning me a little bit of money to buy an old refrigerated truck. It was the only time I ever borrowed money from him, and I started distributing raw milk, and so it was initially dairy-oriented,”
Healy was fired without severance from the communal businesses he founded
“I was the progenitor of all the businesses in this community. I was always coming up with the next vision and next products, and I think that I was just a threat to kind of what was a movement to slow it down and make it a little more conservative, so I was, S…”
Healy secured a $10,000 bank loan by offering Mount Bachelor ski passes
“I got to know a local banker in Salem who happened to be a avid skier at, in Mount Bachelor, and so I talked him into Giving me a 10,000 dollar working capital loan, and I sweetened the pot with a bunch of free passes to Mount Batchelor.”
Healy capitalized his early business by speculating on peanut contracts
“I had a broker. I was buying all my peanuts through, and he tipped me off that there was gonna be a big crop failure that year because of drought, and so I went very bullish. I speculated, which was, Really crazy. And I contracted way, way more nuts than I act…”
Healy: Kettle Chips was inspired by Maui Chips sourcing Oregon potatoes
“Well, if this guy can make such a splash and be in the Wall Street Journal and have this kind of cult following, and he's bringing his potatoes all the way from Oregon, and I'm based in Oregon, I can do this.”
Healy: Russet Burbank potatoes yield higher caramelization and flavor in chips
“We chose the Russet Burbank potato because it's, it produces the highest natural sugars, it wants to caramelize with the temperatures, and you get a darker colored product, but there's more flavor.”
Healy: Fryer oil temperature variation creates the signature kettle chip crunch
“What we later learned was that temperature variation is what Really creates the character of a hand-cooked chip, and the, that extra crunchiness.”
Healy: Kettle Chips would have failed without profits from nut business
“Kettle chips would have never made it. Without the nuts. We had the nut operation.”
Kettle Chips Sold Out Across Three London Stations on Test Weekend
“Tim had made a connection with a small group of convenience stores inside London train stations, and they'd agreed to let us put kettle chips, display them, give them the product for free, and they could keep all the revenue, but they had to give us, be willin…”
Healy: All five major UK supermarket chains ordered Kettle Chips in one week
“The beginning of June, suddenly the product just switched on. It just, word of mouth, Clicked, and we just got deluged with orders, and that's when all five of the supermarket chains all called. In that same week, they all wanted it.”
Healy: Kettle Foods largely self-funded rapid UK factory expansion
“We had to keep expanding the factory and buying more equipment, and those were big investments, but we were able to you know, we had a small banking relationship, but largely we were self-funded in our growth, which was pretty amazing, actually.”
Healy: Kona Brewing lost about $20,000 monthly for several years
“It kind of plateaued at a certain sales that Causing it to lose about 20,000 dollars a month. And this went on not for months, but for several years.”
Healy: Kettle Foods reached $100M in sales before selling minority stake
“Yes, we were, by that point, you know, we're doing about a hundred million dollars in sales scaling and scaled, but Tim and I were the board of directors.”
Healy: Kettle Foods grew 50% under Catterton before Lion Capital buyout
“Yeah, we had grown the business by 50%, and as a board, we agreed that if a certain dollar amount offer came in, then we would consider it.”
Healy declined an advisory role and immediately walked away after buyout
“Yeah, I didn't you know, we were, Tim and I were given a small incentive to be advisors for a year, but we both sat in on the first conference call with the Operator that Lion Capital had brought in to oversee the company, a Scotsman, very dynamic, forceful in…”
Healy co-funded a Salem biodiesel startup with Willie Nelson using waste oil
“By the way, in the early 2000, Cameron was looking for a way to make sure that all that oil used to make kettle chips didn't go to waste. So he funded a biodiesel startup in Salem that still exists today, and he did it with another old hippie who's also a voca…”