WordPress

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16 statements across 1 episodes · 7 bullish · 2 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Mar 21, 2022 by Matt Mullenweg · said 82 times in 10 episodes since 2018 · across every show →

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Everything said about WordPress, oldest first

Mar 21, 2022
Assertion Supported
All b2 forks except one eventually joined the WordPress project
“So all of the forks, except for one, joined up with WordPress.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 20:52 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 positive
Insight
Open-source contributors helped WordPress outpace superior competitors through faster iteration
“When WordPress started, it was worse than all the other software out there. It wasn't very good. It didn't have all the same features and everything like that. But because there were literally later hundreds of people working on it from all over the world, it …”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 38:03 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 positive
Disclosure
Automattic built a razor-and-blades model with free WordPress and paid add-ons
“Part of the idea was that WordPress would always be free, and that's maybe the razor, but perhaps we could figure out some razor blades we could sell, some add-on services that would be really most useful to people who are using it more seriously, and then bus…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 44:37 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022
Assertion Not checkable as stated
CNET leadership rejected Mullenweg's pitch to build hosted WordPress internally
“I had gone to CNET and said, hey, WordPress is cool, but it's really complicated to set up. If we can make it easy, you just click a few buttons and you get a WordPress, I think that'd be really popular. Let's do that. And that was my pitch to CNET. And I even…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 31:59 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 negative
Assertion Supported
Google de-indexed WordPress.org after discovering hidden CSS spam links
“Then Google came in, and of course, they were pretty mad that this code had outsmarted their search engine. So they actually removed WordPress from Google.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 40:50 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
A mid-2000s Google survey revealed WordPress powered 0.8% of the web
“Google had done this survey, published a survey of the internet. It was kind of like a statistical analysis of all the websites that were in the Google index and the code they used. And there was this part of the report that said, yeah, and then on .8% of webs…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 49:41 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022
Assertion Contradicted
WordPress launched with only five or six core developers
“WordPress at the time of launch probably had like five or six main developers, but dozens and dozens of people would make like one small change or one little tweak to it.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 20:57 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 positive
Insight
Early WordPress beat enterprise CMS software purely on speed and ease
“And it's true, the software didn't do most of the things their software did. It was worse in so many ways, but it was better in a way that mattered, which was like speed and ease of use.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 35:49 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Mullenweg claims that WordPress holds zero patents
“WordPress has no patents. We have no anything.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 1:03:36 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 positive
Disclosure
Mullenweg turned down a $200M buyout to keep his dream job
“And when I really thought about it, what I would most want to do. I would want to code every day. I'd want to travel the world and meet WordPress users all over the world. I'd want to make software that people used and do it with people I enjoyed working with.…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 52:45 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
A Houston blogger named Christine coined the name 'WordPress'
“One of the bloggers named Christine thought of this name WordPress, and she called me. She was like, I'm so excited. I'm so excited. There's this name, and the .org is available. You should go for it. And I just fell in love with it. So that's how we chose the…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 16:56 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Default backlinks in early WordPress installs boosted developers' search rankings
“Every install of WordPress had links to all the main developers. So because these thousands and thousands of websites were all linking to the word Matt, that would make Google think, oh, these websites, you know, Photomat.net, et cetera, is the number one site…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 23:06 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Mullenweg: Wix violated copyright by making derived WordPress code proprietary
“What we often go to bat for and fight for, including with this company called Wix, is what they did was they took our code, and then the code they derived from it, so the modifications they met, were, they said were proprietary and secret to Wix. And so what w…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 1:02:32 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Original b2 creator officially crowned WordPress as its successor
“When he came back, he had seen that, like, oh, all these things blossomed out of this thing. And so he looked at all the different forks and very graciously sort of crowned WordPress the official continuation of B-II.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 18:27 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Resold WordPress invites on eBay revealed monetization potential to founders
“And then these tickets started to sell on eBay. So people would get the free ticket, and then they would start to list it or sell it, and tickets were starting to sell for like, 9000 dollars, 120 dollars on eBay. And we were like, huh, maybe people will pay fo…”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 48:55 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Mar 21, 2022
Assertion Supported
Early WordPress spread via default 'Powered by WordPress' footer links
“One thing we did at the time was every website running WordPress, by default, in the template, it would say, powered by WordPress. And so, when you visit a website you liked, you would see this link and be like, oh, let me click on that.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 47:45 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
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